Clay Tutorial: How to Find B2B Buyers Who Actually Care

www.gtmaipodcast.comArup Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arupchakravarti/Most Clay users spend $2K/month to build prettier ZoomInfo clones. Arup Chakravarti is doing something different.Arup is a 20-year RevOps and Enablement veteran, Fellow at the Institute of Sales Professionals, and one of the sharpest operators in the UK GTM space. He spent the last two months going deep on Clay, not as a GTM engineer, but as an enablement brain. The result is a psychographic prospecting system that identifies sales leaders who actually care about developing their teams, not just ones who match a firmographic ICP.In this episode, Arup shares his live Clay build on screen. You'll see:How he built a UK Healthcare Providers list with confidence-scored strategic priority analysis (green/amber/red), pulled from the last 10 articles per company, parsed in JSON, and filtered into meaningful themes.The "PDP Advocacy" column. A psychographic classifier that scores every sales leader as a Strong / Moderate / Weak advocate for professional development based on their LinkedIn profile, posts, comments, and likes. This is the column most Clay users never build because they don't have the enablement lens to know it exists.The iteration that unlocked it. Arup initially scoped the prompt too narrowly ("advocate for the sales function") and broadened it to "advocate for professional development." One word change. Massively bigger qualified pool.Clay's hidden edge: the Google Maps integration that finds mom-and-pop businesses (lawyers, solicitors, local firms) who aren't on LinkedIn at all. If you sell to local SMBs, this is the unlock.Honest data: Clay vs. LinkedIn for employee count accuracy. Spoiler: Clay is closer to actual reported figures than LinkedIn for private companies, because LinkedIn inflates headcount through tagged resellers and influencers.Arup also shares his Clay difficulty rating (middle of the pack, "a little fiddly"), what he had to learn on the fly (JSON structures), and why Clay University is the free onramp most people skip.The throughline of the whole episode: the quality of your Clay output is capped by the domain expertise behind your prompts. A GTM engineer can build a bigger list. An enablement vet, a CS leader, or a product marketer can build a smarter one, because they know which soft signals matter.Connect with Arup: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arupchakravarti/Connect with Coach K: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathankvarfordt/CHAPTERS:00:00 — Intro and reunion with an old enablement friend02:25 — Arup's background: 20 years in RevOps, enablement, and the North London pivot04:05 — What you'll learn: Clay for GTM outreach from an enablement lens06:50 — How Arup describes Clay: the online spreadsheet that operates on itself09:35 — The Google Maps integration nobody talks about (mom-and-pop targeting)11:40 — The use case: UK Healthcare Providers + the ISP case study12:45 — The psychographic targeting breakthrough15:45 — Future trend: LinkedIn political drift and prospecting risk18:10 — LIVE: Walking through the UK Healthcare table19:20 — Pre-built Clay AI columns (the ones with the tiny hat logo)20:50 — JSON parsing and pulling thematic insights from the last 10 articles22:30 — Strategic Priorities with confidence scoring (green/amber/red)23:35 — Building the Sales Leaders sub-table24:00 — Data accuracy: Clay vs LinkedIn for private companies25:30 — The PDP Advocacy column (the one nobody builds)26:00 — Structured prompting inside Clay27:30 — Coach's take on context-in-prompt vs prompt bloat30:25 — Live email generation from the full signal stack31:10 — Email walkthrough: "Strengthening talent via strategic partnerships"31:40 — The honest answer on results (Arup hasn't operationalized yet)32:30 — Clay difficulty rating on a 1-10 scale33:55 — Wrap-up, next roles, and the 6-month follow-up pact