#156 Anger After Betrayal — What It Really Means & How to Work With It with Matt Wenger, LPC, CSAT, CCPS

#156 Anger After Betrayal — What It Really Means & How to Work With It with Matt Wenger, LPC, CSAT, CCPS

Anger is one of the most misunderstood emotions in betrayal trauma — but still shapes every interaction, every conversation, and every attempt at repair.

In this powerful conversation, I’m joined by Matt Wenger, LPC, CSAT, CCSP to unpack what anger actually is, what it’s protecting, and why nervous system regulation is the key to responding rather than reacting.

Because anger isn’t the problem. It’s the nervous system underneath it that determines what happens next.

Matt is the Executive Clinical Director of Begin Again Institute, a treatment center that offers Trauma Based Intensives for Men seeking recovery from porn and sex addiction. He has served more than 1,500 families since 2019. Matt’s expertise is in men’s addiction, betrayal trauma, childhood trauma, couple’s recovery and the spiritual aspects of recovery. Matt holds a Master’s degree in Couples and Family Counseling and is credentialed as Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT), and Certified Clinical Partner Specialist (CCPS). If you would like to connect with Matt:

beginagaininstitute.com

matt.wenger@bai.care

https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-wenger-19b883294/


Connect With Me + Continue Your Healing

If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. I create trauma-informed resources, conversations, and learning experiences to support individuals and couples navigating infidelity, betrayal trauma, and relational repair.

Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:


Join me at a Retreat or Intensive

If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.

⁠⁠⁠Register for my 90-minute Zoom workshop⁠⁠⁠ called Boundaries That Build Safety: Reclaiming Your Power After Betrayal. Happening Thursday, April 30th at 6 PM Pacific Time.

⁠Email Hali⁠⁠ to join the⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth.

The ⁠⁠Courage to Thrive Betrayal Trauma Intensive⁠⁠ takes place August 25-28 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.


Free Resources & Downloads

Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.

👉⁠A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal⁠

👉⁠Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal⁠

Upcoming Course: Reclaiming You After Betrayal

If you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a course focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.

This course is ideal for those who want support without individual coaching and at a pace that honors their nervous system.

👉 ⁠Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist to be the first to Register!⁠


Listen to My Other Podcast

If you are still in your relationship—or in the process of discerning whether you want to stay—I invite you to also follow my podcast, Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal, where I speak to both partners about healing, accountability, and rebuilding trust.

👉 ⁠Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal⁠


Join My Newsletter

Stay connected through my newsletter, where I share reflections, trauma-informed insights, and updates on upcoming courses, workshops, retreats, and live experiences.

👉 ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠


Connect With Me Between Episodes

Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.

👉 Instagram: ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠

👉 Facebook: ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠

👉 Website:⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.mykajabi.com

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#177 One Hour a Week Was Never Going to Be Enough

#177 One Hour a Week Was Never Going to Be Enough

If you're a woman and you’re doing the work — therapy, coaching, reading everything you can get your hands on — and you're still white-knuckling it alone most days of the week, this episode is for you...

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#176 The Fight Under the Fight — Decoding What Betrayal Trauma Does to Your Everyday Arguments

#176 The Fight Under the Fight — Decoding What Betrayal Trauma Does to Your Everyday Arguments

If you're rebuilding trust after infidelity, you've probably noticed something strange: small disagreements can escalate way faster and way bigger than the topic seems to deserve. A dish in the sink. ...

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#175 The Separation Plan Guide: Navigating Time Apart After Betrayal Trauma with Shawna Meek, PCC, CPC-S

#175 The Separation Plan Guide: Navigating Time Apart After Betrayal Trauma with Shawna Meek, PCC, CPC-S

"Separation" doesn't have to mean divorce. In this episode, I'm joined by Shawna Meek of Living Stones Coaching to talk about the therapeutic separation — a structured, intentional time apart designed...

3 Sep 43min

***BONUS Choosing Different Mini Series: What I Wish I'd Done Differently with my daughters, Mataia and Morgan

***BONUS Choosing Different Mini Series: What I Wish I'd Done Differently with my daughters, Mataia and Morgan

In this episode of the Choosing Different mini-series, Hali is joined by her daughters, Mataia and Morgan, for an honest conversation about betrayal trauma's impact on the whole family — not just the ...

29 Aug 29min

#174 It's Not Too Late: Healing an Affair You Thought Was Behind You

#174 It's Not Too Late: Healing an Affair You Thought Was Behind You

If the betrayal in your relationship happened years ago — and life moved forward, but the deepest layers of healing never actually happened — this episode is for you.Maybe the resources weren't availa...

27 Aug 14min

#173 Betrayed Men: Why Their Trauma Looks Different — and What Actually Helps with Dr. Laney Knowlton

#173 Betrayed Men: Why Their Trauma Looks Different — and What Actually Helps with Dr. Laney Knowlton

When we talk about betrayal trauma, the picture most people carry is of a betrayed woman. But men experience betrayal too — and their pain often goes unseen, misread as anger, or dismissed entirely. I...

20 Aug 44min

#172 Why the Right Words Aren't Enough: Embodied Empathy in Betrayal Recovery

#172 Why the Right Words Aren't Enough: Embodied Empathy in Betrayal Recovery

You can say all the right words and still leave your partner feeling completely unsafe.If you're the partner who caused harm, that may be the most frustrating thing you've encountered in recovery — yo...

13 Aug 27min

*** BONUS Choosing Different Mini Series: Three Words Every Parent Owes Their Child: "I Believe You" 

*** BONUS Choosing Different Mini Series: Three Words Every Parent Owes Their Child: "I Believe You" 

What happens when a child no longer has to convince their parent that their pain was real?In this episode of Choosing Different Mini Series, Hali sits down with her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth, for a s...

8 Aug 20min

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