There Is No More Cerulean

There Is No More Cerulean

I went on Sam Sanders's show on KCRW to talk all things Met Gala 2026! We get into the Bezos Met Gala sponsorship, fashion's new Gilded Age, and The Devil Wears Prada 2. We also talked about why tech money is taking over fashion, what happened to the aspirational consumer, and whether the Cerulean monologue could even exist in 2026. Sam is one of the best interviewers around — this was a really fun conversation. Thanks to the KCRW team for allowing us to share it here. Follow Sam's show here. CHAPTERS: 01:30 – Has the Met Gala Become the Tech Gala? 05:20 – Has Fashion Entered a New Gilded Age? 10:20 – The Widening Gap Between the Classes of Fashion 14:20 – What it’s Like to be a Fashion VIC 18:00 – What’s Changed in Fashion Since The (1st) Devil Wears Prada? 20:00 – Does the Cerulean Monologue Hold Up in 2026? 25:10 – Fixing the Met Gala 27:40 – Amy’s Sources of Fashion Inspo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Fashion Month Awards Part One: Chanel’s New Era & Tech Billionaires in the Front Row (with Dana Thomas)

Fashion Month Awards Part One: Chanel’s New Era & Tech Billionaires in the Front Row (with Dana Thomas)

Paris Fashion Week wrapped up the Fall 2026 shows, so Amy Odell and New York Times bestselling author Dana Thomas are handing out the Fashion Month Awards. Together they break down the biggest moment...

12 Mar 41min

The Real Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette

The Real Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette

Amy Odell sits down with Liz McNeil and RoseMarie Terenzio, authors of JFK Jr.: An Intimate Oral Biography, to discuss the real romance between Carolyn Bessette and JFK Jr. that inspired the FX show L...

9 Mar 41min

Dior Review: Can Jonathan Anderson Cure the 'Luxury Ick'?

Dior Review: Can Jonathan Anderson Cure the 'Luxury Ick'?

Paris Fashion Week is off and running. Jonathan Anderson's fall 2026 Dior show kicked off the week — and Amy liked it a lot more than she expected! She reads her review of the show from the Back Row n...

6 Mar 9min

The Secret Rules of the Hermès Game: Who Actually Gets a Birkin?

The Secret Rules of the Hermès Game: Who Actually Gets a Birkin?

Amy sits down with Noëmie Leclercq of luxury news outlet Glitz Paris to debate the "Hermès game" (aka everything customers allegedly have to do in order for boutiques to offer them the chance to purch...

2 Mar 31min

Marina Larroudé on Anna Wintour, Barneys, and Building a Multi-Million Dollar Brand

Marina Larroudé on Anna Wintour, Barneys, and Building a Multi-Million Dollar Brand

Amy Odell talks with fashion director-turned-entrepreneur Marina Larroudé about why she left Teen Vogue for Barneys -- and then started her own brand. Marina recalls Style.com's earliest days; how top...

23 Feb 39min

Why Big Fashion Doesn’t Dress Olympic Figure Skaters

Why Big Fashion Doesn’t Dress Olympic Figure Skaters

This is the audio version of the Back Row newsletter published February 17, 2026. Why don't fashion designers view Olympic figure skating the way they do red carpets — as a forum to exploit for br...

19 Feb 8min

Confessions of a Luxury Sale Whisperer (with Madison Avenue Spy)

Confessions of a Luxury Sale Whisperer (with Madison Avenue Spy)

Part 2 is available to paid subscribers at backrow.net (which includes full newsletter access) or through Apple Podcasts or Spotify. In Part 2, Amy and Lila debate the Saks Fifth Avenue bankruptcy — ...

16 Feb 44min

Are Awards Shows Just Luxury Marketing Now?

Are Awards Shows Just Luxury Marketing Now?

Are awards shows still about movies — or are they now luxury fashion marketing disguised as cultural prestige? And who’s actually funding all these celeb red-carpet appearances — the studios, the star...

9 Feb 37min

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