George Saunders on "Pancho and Lefty"

George Saunders on "Pancho and Lefty"

Celebrated author George Saunders digs deep into one of the best-loved songs not just in Willie Nelson’s catalog, but in all of American music, Townes Van Zandt’s legendary tale of betrayal, “Pancho and Lefty.” It is, in many ways, a song full of mystery, and George, who also teaches Russian short fiction at Syracuse University’s acclaimed creative writing program, walks us through it verse-by-verse, unlocking the secrets in the song’s story; the way Townes, Willie, and Merle Haggard made us care so much; and what the song tells us about what it means to be human. All that, plus the way hearing “Hello Walls” as a little kid crawling around under his parents’ poker table awakened him to the importance of elegance in art—with cameos by Dostoevsky, Chekov, Jeff Tweedy, and Ernie Banks.

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Martie Maguire and Emily Strayer on "Bloody Mary Morning"

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Don Was on "Across the Borderline" (On the Pod Again, Vol. 1)

Don Was on "Across the Borderline" (On the Pod Again, Vol. 1)

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Taj Mahal on "Bloody Mary Morning" - Live from Luck!

Taj Mahal on "Bloody Mary Morning" - Live from Luck!

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