Former CIA Spies on America’s Decline, The Potential of WW3, & What’s Really Happening Behind the Scenes in the US Government

Former CIA Spies on America’s Decline, The Potential of WW3, & What’s Really Happening Behind the Scenes in the US Government

What’s REALLY Going On Behind the Scenes of the CIA, the Media, and the U.S. Government?


On Mayim Bialik’s Breakdown, former CIA agents and intelligence officers Andrew & Jihi Bustamante (creators of the EverydaySpy podcast, authors of Shadow Cell: An Insider Account of America’s New Spy War & popular guests on Diary of a CEO & The Joe Rogan Experience) pull back the curtain in this explosive, no-holds-barred conversation.


From the moment you marry a spy (can you ever truly trust your partner?) to the shocking 4 categories of lies the CIA teaches—Mayim & Jonathan dive deep into the secretive world of espionage, national security, and the collapse of trust in modern institutions. Andrew and Jihi break down the shrinking middle class caused by American politics post-Trump, what it means for our future, whether the U.S. is moving closer to dictatorship (and if so, can we stop it?), and why the wealthy elite are leaving the U.S. (and which countries they’re fleeing to).


These whistleblowers expose what the CIA doesn’t want you to know:

- The 4 categories of lies every CIA officer is trained to tell

- The agency’s current use of psychics and Cold War-era remote viewing programs

- The loneliness and psychological toll of living a covert life

- How the news & media is manipulated—and why even “trusted” outlets are failing us

- Post-Trump politics: is the U.S. sliding toward dictatorship or already in it?

- Why wealthy elites are fleeing America (and where they’re going)

- The global fallout if a U.S. president is jailed, and what it means for our standing

- The CIA’s take on Israel, rising global conflicts, and the risk of world war

- How AI is dehumanizing warfare and reshaping the battlefield

- Why Epstein’s case continues to expose cracks in our institutions


Andrew and Jihi also reveal how influence, persuasion, and dialogue can still be used productively—even in a fractured society. From Venezuela’s collapse as a warning sign to the everyday challenge of separating real news from propaganda, this is more than an interview—it’s a wake-up call.


Get the truth behind headlines, corruption, and the secret machinery of the U.S. government & change the way you see everything!


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