Weirder Together with Ben Lee and Ione Skye15 Jun

DTF St. Louis, AI Music & Why You Need a Normie Friend

This week we got completely sucked into DTF St. Louis on Max — and we have thoughts. David Harbour plays the most likable character in a show about suburban kinks, male loneliness and consensual weirdness, and we can't stop thinking about two middle-aged men tenderly dancing in their tighty-whities. Also: a woman yelled "you're my hall pass" at Ben during his Richmond show, and we're noticing a trend.

Plus: the AI music backlash is real — Suno just raised $400 million and yet the public has definitively decided they do not want AI-created music. The Spotify CEO thinks bands should just drop a song every month. Reese Witherspoon is doing "let them eat cake" AI ads. And we explain exactly why tech platforms fundamentally do not understand creativity.

Also: Seth Rogen's New York Times interview is essential listening, Ione had her first art show (get the painting at Vamped Vintage in Newtown), and we make the case for always having at least one normie friend in your life.

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Listener Question: What Have You Had To "Unlearn"?

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30 Jul 7min

Australian Drug Slang, The Odyssey & A Clockwork Orange

Ben issues a formal apology for confusing his Pingers from his Nangs from his Yippers after an uproar in the comments section — the Australian drug slang correction nobody asked for but everyone neede...

27 Jul 35min

Listener Question: Chaos Agents vs Stabilisers?

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16 Jul 10min

Girl in Red Called 'Say Anything' an "Old Movie"

This week: Ben drives five hours to the Snowy Mountains with 17-year-olds, visits the Yarrangobilly Caves — and completely freezes when the punk rock tour guide turns off the lights and says "if anyon...

13 Jul 35min

Listener Question: The Secret to Long Term Relationships?

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9 Jul 10min

Robin Byrd, Why 90s Artists Were Terrified of Success & Ninajirachi's Victorious Homecoming

Before TikTok, before OnlyFans, before anyone used the phrase "sex positive" — there was Robin Byrd on New York public access cable. Sarah Jessica Parker just produced a documentary about her called B...

6 Jul 33min

Listener Question: Will Ione Ever Direct a Feature Film?

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2 Jul 5min

Eve Babitz Wrote About Ione Skye, Baz Luhrmann's Perfect Dogme 95 Comeback

Ione is about to shoot a new film. Ben is thinking about covering Georgia Maq’s “Joe Rogan” song on their upcoming Australian tour. We found a 1990 Elle magazine article where legendary LA writer Eve ...

1 Jul 36min