167. Pride Comes Before the Thrall : Children of Húrin #5

167. Pride Comes Before the Thrall : Children of Húrin #5

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Is Morwen heroic, tragic, or just stubborn to a fault? We’re on to chapter 4 of The Children of Húrin, exploring how pride, fate, and Morgoths curses shape the next generation after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. We unpack why Morwen refuses help, howt fate and free work in tandem, and how Túrin’s story is already marked by sorrow and legacy.

We also discuss:

  • Whether Morwen’s choices are shaped by pride or the curse of Morgoth—or both
  • Why Tolkien spends so much time on the theme of charity and nobility in hard times
  • The meaning of the Helm of Hador and why Thingol reveres it
  • Sador’s role as a substitute father and teacher for Túrin when Morwen won’t speak

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  • Andy Serkis’s defense of The Hunt for Gollum’s casting and the use of AI on set
  • First glimpses of the new Gandalf in The Rings of Power—and what we make of it
  • How modern adaptations handle mythology, diversity, and audience immersion
  • Tolkienian pride—from Morwen to modern filmmakers

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