351: SUMMER LISTENING: Steve Durbin – How Quantum and Geopolitics Are Redefining Resilience

Today, Steve returns to Business Matters with Juliette Foster. In this conversation, Steve recaps 2025 in cyber and shares what he sees as the biggest risks heading into 2026. The two also discuss resilience and compliance, as well as the growing importance of togetherness among businesses.

Key Takeaways:
1 Companies would be wise to conduct frequent cyber audits.
2 Supply-chain disruptions can have long-lasting, reputational effects.
3 How we protect the integrity of our data is at the core of cybersecurity.

Tune in to hear more about:
1 The relationship between government business in cyber (12:56)
2 How boards should plan for a cyber attack (15:40)
3 Collaborating within and across industries (22:24)

Standout Quotes:
1 “I've said many times that good compliance doesn't equal good security, but good security does equal, nine times out of 10, very good compliance. So where do we go with all of that? I do think that we're probably getting to a point, sadly, where we need to be viewing some of the security processes that we need to undergo in the same way as we consider financial audits.” - Steve Durbin

2 “I think that the day is gone when you can rely on your defenses. So boards have to be planning for the day when the defenses fail. When an attack really starts to make an impact on your business. The starting point is to figure out how long you can be without your systems. It may sound like a strange thing to say, but that's the important starting point for me.” - Steve Durbin

3 “Security is not, in my opinion anyway, a competitive advantage. And because it's not a competitive advantage, there shouldn't be this massive barrier to sharing some of the ideas, some of the attacks that are out there for the good of the industry.” - Steve Durbin

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