#199 - Aubrey de Grey - The Man Who Says Ageing Can Be Cured

Aubrey de Grey believes ageing is accumulated damage in a biological machine and argues that medicine may eventually become capable of repairing that damage faster than it appears. He gives humanity a 50/50 chance of reaching what he calls “longevity escape velocity” within the next 12-15 years.

Peter and Aubrey discuss why the body ages, the seven categories of damage that must be repaired, stem-cell and gene therapies, the mouse experiment that could transform the field, and why Aubrey believes rejuvenation treatment will ultimately be available to everyone rather than reserved for the wealthy.

They also explore what happens to population, work, fertility, relationships, religion and the meaning of life if people stop getting sick from ageing. Aubrey explains why AI cannot replace the missing biological experiments, why longevity research remains so difficult to fund and why he is driven by the 110,000 people he says die from ageing-related causes every day.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 - Trailer

00:00:48 - Can We Cure Ageing?

00:04:24 - The 12–15 Year Prediction

00:06:17 - The Body Is a Machine

00:15:21 - How Aubrey Entered Longevity

00:18:45 - Would You Want to Live Forever?

00:20:15 - Does Longevity Change Risk?

00:21:53 - Will Population Explode?

00:24:22 - Can You Choose Your Age?

00:30:19 - The Seven Types of Ageing Damage

00:36:54 - What Rejuvenation Treatment Looks Like

00:45:35 - Will It Be Expensive?

00:48:39 - Who Would Refuse It?

00:53:00 - Why Longevity Research Lacks Funding

00:56:02 - The Mouse Experiment

01:00:18 - The Breakthrough That Changes Everything

01:01:35 - Does Death Give Life Meaning?

01:05:22 - Bryan Johnson and AI

01:12:32 - AlphaFold, AGI and AI Risk

01:15:13 - Why Funding Is So Hard

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CONTACT PETE:

› Website – https://www.petermccormack.com/

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CONNECT WITH AUBREY DE GREY:

› LEV Foundation – https://www.levf.org/

› Aubrey de Grey – https://www.levf.org/aubreydegrey

› Robust Mouse Rejuvenation – https://www.levf.org/projects/robust-mouse-rejuvenation-study-1

› Donate – https://www.levf.org/donate

› X/Twitter – https://x.com/aubreydegrey

SPONSORS:

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› Ledn – https://ledn.io/peter

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