Are You Measuring What Matters in Change? | Dr. Ryan Brown | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Are You Measuring What Matters in Change? | Dr. Ryan Brown | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Here are three provocative questions that arise from this Change Signal conversation with Dr. Ryan Brown: What are you measuring that doesn’t matter? Where might your data be lying to you? And what if the “immeasurable” parts of change are exactly what count? Ryan’s a behavioral scientist who studies how organizations measure what actually works—especially in complex, human systems of change. We talk about why measurement needs to start with humility—the courage to admit you might not know what’s really creating impact—and how clarity about your true objectives changes everything. He shares his simple but powerful framework: measure across three domains—feelings, thoughts, and behaviors—so you capture both what people do and what they believe. And we dig into the hidden traps of data itself: how metrics get gamed, why context shapes truth, and why “data never speak for themselves.” If you lead large-scale transformation, this episode helps you move beyond dashboards and surveys to something more essential—learning what’s real, what matters, and what’s worth measuring at all. Change Signal. Where transformational change leaders seek and find modern change wisdom. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works. *** WHEN YOU’RE READY 🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!) The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly *** CONNECT 💼Connect on LinkedIn *** SAY THANKS 💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 💚Leave a review on Spotify

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Your Change Strategy Isn't a Strategy| Alex M H Smith | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Your Change Strategy Isn't a Strategy| Alex M H Smith | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

This Change Signal conversation with Alex M H Smith asks three sharp questions: What unique value does your change work create? Who actually cares about it? What are you brave enough to...

16 Sep 26min

Should Change Teams Disappear? | Clay Parker Jones | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Should Change Teams Disappear? | Clay Parker Jones | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Here are three questions from this Change Signal conversation: What if resistance is right? Where does change spread without permission? How close is your transformation work to custome...

9 Sep 26min

How Change Really Travels | Greg Satell | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

How Change Really Travels | Greg Satell | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Here are three questions from this Change Signal conversation with Greg Satell: What if change doesn’t move through hierarchy at all? What if silos are not the problem, but part of the solu...

2 Sep 28min

Why Stories Matter More| Jennifer Garvey Berger | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Why Stories Matter More| Jennifer Garvey Berger | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Jennifer Garvey Berger’s three key insights: connectivity matters more than individual talent in complex systems; small experiments beat both over-planning and paralysis; and stories are legitimate me...

26 Aug 30min

Is Your Organization Change Allergic?| Anne Gotte | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Is Your Organization Change Allergic?| Anne Gotte | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Three key insights from Anne Gotte: change management is as outdated as "personnel" organizations must diagnose their change allergies before attempting transformation; and leaders need to embrace clu...

19 Aug 27min

Why You Build Belonging Before Belief| Hahrie Han| Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Why You Build Belonging Before Belief| Hahrie Han| Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Here are three big insights that emerge from this Change Signal conversation with Hahrie Han: Are you creating value or just convenience?; Does belonging come before belief in your organizati...

12 Aug 35min

What Really Moves/Changes a System| Helen Bevan| Modern Change Management & Leading Change

What Really Moves/Changes a System| Helen Bevan| Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Here are three provocative questions that arise from this Change Signal conversation with Helen Bevan: Is your belonging actually just assimilation? Are your relationships stronger than you...

5 Aug 29min

How to Build Real Agency | Cate Hall | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

How to Build Real Agency | Cate Hall | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

Here are three questions this Change Signal conversation asks: What freedom are you not seeing yet? Where can you safely loosen control? When does agency become dangerous? In this ep...

29 Jul 21min

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