Elon Musk & Gwynne Shotwell on AI Risks and Peer Review, Starship, Terafab, SpaceX/Tesla Merger

Elon Musk & Gwynne Shotwell on AI Risks and Peer Review, Starship, Terafab, SpaceX/Tesla Merger

(0:00) SpaceX's Gwynne Shotwell joins The Besties!

(1:45) Gwynne's SpaceX story, selling rockets, and working for Elon

(6:45) Running modern day SpaceX: AI, Starlink, Rockets, and X

(13:43) Direct to cell with Starlink, retiring rockets, competition

(18:34) Data centers in space

(22:00) Management at SpaceX

(27:37) Elon Musk joins: AI's real risk, model peer review, what he meant by "Dario is right"

(36:53) Elon and Gwynne on their working relationship, Starship's future

(46:16) Terafab, Tesla, Flying cars?, merging Tesla and SpaceX

(52:51) Lying AIs, how to do AI peer review right

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