Top Traders Unplugged13 Mar 2023

TTU138: Need for Speed in Trendfollowing ft. Matt Dorsten, Portfolio Manager at PIMCO

Today, we are joined by Matt Dorsten, Portfolio Manager within the Quantitative Strategies group at PIMCO, for a conversation how they manage 60 billion dollars through different quant strategies, of which app. $5bn is in Trend Following. We discuss their process of constructing portfolios using a defensive approach and how they manage to simultaneously maintain a high Sharpe, keep a balance between long and short trades and how they use tail "hedging" in their design of the strategy. We also discuss why they believe having a broad universe of markets is key and why they see a big potential in exotic markets, why they believe it is better to trade faster as a trend follower when markets are liquid enough, their process of measuring the expected returns and much more.

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Episode Timestamps:

02:28 - Introduction to PIMCO

05:11 - Their investment philosophy

11:11 - Too concerned about the Sharpe?

14:53 - A different Speed of trend following

18:13 - Building a defence against equity drawdowns

22:32 - Balancing the opposing forces

25:45 - A different approach to volatility correlation?

27:06 - Using machine learning

28:04 - The role of bonds

31:34 - The larger portfolio perspective

33:07 - Their research process

36:53 - Number of markets

39:01 - Their view on CTA replication

42:10 - Need for speed?

44:28 - Different models for different markets?

45:50 - Hitting the gas?

48:02 - Cap the equities?

49:14 - Adding non-priced based signals

50:31 - How many strategies do you actually need?

51:17 - What is second best Tail Hedge?

52:15 - Framing the expected outcomes

54:04 - Their sense on liquidity

55:38 - Trend following disagreements

57:05 - Expectations for 2023

59:49 - Running trend following in a bond shop

01:01:29 - Thanks for listening

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