Let AI Have Intelligence. We’ll Keep Wisdom. (with Arianna Huffington and Dawn Nakagawa)
Futurology29 Sep

Let AI Have Intelligence. We’ll Keep Wisdom. (with Arianna Huffington and Dawn Nakagawa)

Somewhere around the Enlightenment we decided that thinking was what made us human. We built our schools, careers, and sense of worth at the altar of intelligence. Now machines are passing us on that rubric, which leaves two possibilities: we were replaceable all along, or we picked the wrong standard to live by. In this episode, Arianna Huffington, founder & CEO of Thrive Global, argues the latter, saying even our name, sapiens, never meant intelligent: it means wise. She calls this rightsizing of intelligence the fourth dethronement, after Galileo, quantum physics, and Freud. What takes the throne now is the part of us she would simply call the soul. Subscribe to Futurology on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Futurologypod Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/futurology/id1821718921 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/2I38HvHP6KlXrD5ysfygxk Mentioned in this Episode: "AI's Greatest Gift To Humanity" — Arianna Huffington (Essay, 2026) The Sleep Revolution: Transforming Your Life, One Night at a Time — Arianna Huffington (Book, 2016) Picasso: Creator and Destroyer — Arianna Huffington (Book, 1988) Thrive: The Third Metric to Redefining Success and Creating a Life of Well-Being, Wisdom, and Wonder — Arianna Huffington (Book, 2014) The Fourth Instinct: The Call of the Soul — Arianna Huffington (Book, 1994) After Reason — Arianna Huffington (Book, 1978) The Survival of the Wisest — Jonas Salk (Book, 1973) Where to find Arianna Huffington: Website: https://www.ariannahuffington.com Thrive Global: https://www.thriveglobal.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ariannahuffington Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ariannahuff X: x.com/ariannahuff Facebook: facebook.com/AriannaHuffington Show ideas and feedback? Email: futurology@berggruen.org Learn more about the Berggruen Institute https://www.berggruen.org Follow Futurology! Instagram: / futurologypod Twitter/X: / futurologypod Tiktok: / futurologypod Facebook: / berggrueninst LinkedIn: / berggrueninst Bluesky: / futurologypod Credits Executive Producers: Nicolas Berggruen, Nathan Gardels, Nils Gilman, Dawn Nakagawa, & Jason Hoch Producers: Grant Slater, Alex Gardels, & Nathalia Ramos Associate Producer: Elissa Mardiney Theme Music: Marcus Bagala Audio Engineer: Kyle Scott Wilson Futurology is a production of Studio B and Wavland for the Berggruen Institute in Los Angeles, California.

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