38: What Kinds Of Forensic Evidence Will Be Key In Gilgo Beach Murders Case?

38: What Kinds Of Forensic Evidence Will Be Key In Gilgo Beach Murders Case?

In a recent episode of the podcast Hidden Killers, Tony Brueski was joined by Joseph Scott Morgan, a Forensic Scientist and Distinguished Scholar of Applied Forensics at Jacksonville State University. The discussion delved into the intricate facets of forensic evidence related to an ongoing case involving a suspected serial killer.

At the onset, Morgan detailed the challenges of investigating cases where the bodies have been in a state of decomposition for several years. "We don't have a lot of solid data relative... about causes of death," he shared, linking the gaps in information to the advanced decomposition of the remains. The forensic scientist also touched upon patterns typically exhibited by serial killers in their modus operandi, indicating that most do not deviate from their preferred methods of execution.

He highlighted the case of one killer from New Orleans who derived perverse pleasure from using a garrot. Such killers revel in the physical pain they inflict, with the act of murdering becoming an intimate and personalized endeavor. This gruesome insight shed light on the psychology of serial killers and their attachment to certain methods of killing.

One of the more perplexing aspects of the case at hand is the varying states of the bodies found - some intact and others dismembered. Morgan stated, "What's fascinating about her [Fire Island Jane Doe] case is that her... legs were found that fateful day out on Fire Island back in 96... there's still no torso with her." This begs the question: why would a killer leave some bodies intact and yet take the time to dismember others?

Discussing this dichotomy further, Morgan posited a theory that the dismemberment could be a sign that the killer had more time with certain victims. "Is the dismemberment an indication that a subject may have had more time with someone they had targeted to kill?" Morgan mused. "It takes time to take a body apart... They would have done this, wrapped it and deposited it out there." On the contrary, other bodies might have been disposed of in haste, possibly wrapped in materials like burlap.

Contrasting these behaviors, Morgan underlined the difference between treating a dead body with a semblance of respect versus mutilating it. These variations can be significant when trying to understand the psyche of a serial killer and can give insights into their evolving patterns.

Yet, this very evolution is what baffles investigators. "To change how you're disposing of bodies is certainly an outlier in my experience," Morgan expressed. Brueski echoed the sentiment, pointing out that it's bizarre for one's methods to alter so drastically unless it's a sign of evolving behavior.

Adding a layer of complexity, the location of these bodies was discussed. The secluded nature of Long Island was emphasized, with its isolation being a potential factor in why it was chosen for body deposition.

A more unsettling aspect was the return of the suspected killer's family to their home, presumably a site of significant forensic evidence. The speed with which the house was released back to the family after investigations left both Brueski and Morgan shocked.

The podcast episode served as a sobering reminder of the complexities of forensic investigations, especially with serial killers. Morgan's insights provided a deep dive into the often unfathomable minds of those who commit such heinous acts, leaving listeners with more questions than answers about the ongoing case. As the investigation unfolds, both the public and experts alike await to see how forensic science will unveil the truths hidden within the evidence.
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Will Rex Heuermann Go Down As One Of The Biggest Serial Killers In History? -Half Year Review

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Welcome to the "Half Year Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this year's most compelling headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that have dominated the news. This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events. Throughout the past six months, we've followed and dissected cases such as Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt, Harmony Montgomery, the Delphi Murders, Kouri Richins, Bryan Kohberger, Rex Heuermann, Alex Murdaugh, Chad and Lori Daybell, and the Adelson family. Each episode navigates through these stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Half Year Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, The Trial of Karen Read, The Murder Of Maddie Soto, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

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Did Rex Heuermann's Family Have ANY CLUE That He Was The Long Island Serial Killer? -Half Year Review

Did Rex Heuermann's Family Have ANY CLUE That He Was The Long Island Serial Killer? -Half Year Review

Welcome to the "Half Year Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this year's most compelling headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that have dominated the news. This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events. Throughout the past six months, we've followed and dissected cases such as Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt, Harmony Montgomery, the Delphi Murders, Kouri Richins, Bryan Kohberger, Rex Heuermann, Alex Murdaugh, Chad and Lori Daybell, and the Adelson family. Each episode navigates through these stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Half Year Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, The Trial of Karen Read, The Murder Of Maddie Soto, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

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Why Is Attorney John Ray Making Extreme Unfounded Accusations Against Rex Heuerman's Daughter-WEEK IN REVIEW

Why Is Attorney John Ray Making Extreme Unfounded Accusations Against Rex Heuerman's Daughter-WEEK IN REVIEW

Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime, or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week in Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, The Trial of Karen Read, The Murder Of Maddie Soto, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

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Attorney John Ray Points The Finger At Rex Heuermann's Daughter-WEEK IN REVIEW

Attorney John Ray Points The Finger At Rex Heuermann's Daughter-WEEK IN REVIEW

Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime, or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week in Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, The Trial of Karen Read, The Murder Of Maddie Soto, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

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Ret FBI Jennifer Coffindaffer On The Reckless Accusations Made Against Rex Heuerman's Daughter-WEEK IN REVIEW

Ret FBI Jennifer Coffindaffer On The Reckless Accusations Made Against Rex Heuerman's Daughter-WEEK IN REVIEW

Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.      This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime, or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week in Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, The Trial of Karen Read, The Murder Of Maddie Soto, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

30 Jun 20245min

Is Attorney John Ray Going Too Far With Latest Accusations Against Rex Heuermann's Daughter-WEEK IN REVIEW

Is Attorney John Ray Going Too Far With Latest Accusations Against Rex Heuermann's Daughter-WEEK IN REVIEW

Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime, or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week in Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, The Trial of Karen Read, The Murder Of Maddie Soto, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

30 Jun 20247min

Ret FBI Jennifer Coffindaffer On The Reckless Accusations Made Against Rex Heuerman's Daughter

Ret FBI Jennifer Coffindaffer On The Reckless Accusations Made Against Rex Heuerman's Daughter

In this episode of "Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski," retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer discusses the controversial actions of attorney John Ray, who recently accused Victoria Heuermann, daughter of the alleged Long Island serial killer Rex Heuermann, of being involved in her father's crimes. Ray, representing some victims' families, called Victoria a "human devil" and linked her to Rex's alleged deeds, despite no evidence from law enforcement supporting these claims. Coffindaffer criticizes Ray's public accusations as reckless and speculative, arguing that any evidence should be given to the police, not presented in a press conference. She emphasizes that Victoria and Asa Ellerup, Rex's wife, have been cleared by law enforcement so far. The discussion highlights the potential damage to Ray's credibility and the possible legal repercussions Victoria could pursue. Coffindaffer concludes that Ray's approach was inappropriate and damaging, suggesting that such matters should be handled through proper investigative channels. ### Main Points - **Accusations by John Ray:** Ray accused Victoria Heuermann of involvement in Rex Heuermann's alleged crimes. - **No Evidence:** Law enforcement has found no evidence implicating Victoria or Asa Ellerup. - **Reckless Public Accusations:** Ray's public statements are criticized as speculative and damaging. - **Proper Procedure:** Emphasis on providing evidence to the police, not through press conferences. - **Impact on Credibility:** Ray's credibility is questioned due to his approach. - **Legal Repercussions:** Victoria could potentially sue Ray, though it might expose more personal details. - **Handling Investigations:** Matters should be handled through proper channels, not public forums. ### Hashtags #HiddenKillers #TonyBrueski #JenniferCoffindaffer #RexHeuermann #VictoriaHeuermann #JohnRay #TrueCrime Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, The Karen Read Trial, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

28 Jun 20245min

Why Is Attorney John Ray Making Extreme Unfounded Accusations Against Rex Heuerman's Daughter?

Why Is Attorney John Ray Making Extreme Unfounded Accusations Against Rex Heuerman's Daughter?

In a recent episode of "Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski," psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott discusses the shocking accusations made by attorney John Ray during a news conference. Ray accused Victoria Heuermann, daughter of alleged Long Island serial killer Rex Heuermann, of being involved in the crimes, including cannibalism. Scott expresses her shock at Ray's bold claims, emphasizing the need to investigate all family members but criticizing the graphic and sensational nature of the accusations. Scott discusses the potential psychological impact on children raised in homes with exposure to violent and dark material, suggesting that while concerning, it does not necessarily indicate criminal behavior. The conversation explores the complexities of distinguishing between curious exploration of dark themes and actual involvement in criminal activities. Scott also touches on the genetic and environmental factors that might contribute to violent tendencies, but she cautions against making unfounded leaps. The episode raises questions about the responsible handling of such sensitive accusations and the broader implications for the family involved. **Main Points:** - John Ray accused Victoria Heuermann of involvement in her father's alleged crimes, including cannibalism. - Shavaun Scott was shocked by the graphic nature of Ray's accusations. - Investigating family members is necessary, but sensational accusations may not be helpful. - Exposure to violent material in childhood can have psychological impacts, but does not necessarily lead to criminal behavior. - The conversation explores the potential genetic and environmental factors contributing to violent tendencies. - Responsible handling of accusations is crucial to avoid unnecessary harm. - The case remains complex and raises broader questions about family dynamics and criminal behavior. **Hashtags:** #HiddenKillersWithTonyBrueski #ShavaunScott #RexHeuermann #VictoriaHeuermann #JohnRay #SerialKiller #PsychologicalImpact Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, The Karen Read Trial, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

27 Jun 202412min

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