734: HTMX Web Apps with Carson Gross

734: HTMX Web Apps with Carson Gross

Scott and Wes welcome HTMX creator Carson Gross to discuss the versatile applications and optimal scenarios for using HTMX, alongside insights into its creation and evolution. Join us as we explore the future prospects and improvements as we look towards HTMX 2.0. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Syntax! 00:52 Brought to you by Sentry.io 02:22 Who is Carson Gross? BigSkySoftware GitHub BigSkySoftware 03:53 What exactly is HTMX? htmx.org htmx.org/examples 07:04 What made you want to create something like HTMX? intercooler.js 10:01 Would HTML look more like HTMX if we were to rebuild it today? 12:54 Isn’t HTMX a step backward into old-school AJAX? 16:09 When would you avoid using HTMX? 17:56 Does HTMX put an unnecessary load on the server? 21:46 What are your thoughts on rendering everything on the server? 26:29 What is your favorite stack? 28:49 Things that are lost moving to the JavaScript framework world. 30:16 HTMX coupling your front end and back end. 32:28 How do you feel about web components? 33:40 What are the big templating engines and your top pick? HTMX Essays 36:33 Object-oriented HTML. 37:38 Is there an offline story or a “local-first” story for HTMX? 38:44 What does the future of HTMX look like given its rise in popularity? 40:03 HTMX and X (Twitter). Syntax Show 726 HTMX on X 42:30 The Microsoft story. 45:26 Carson’s thoughts on de-escalating the language around HTMX. 47:44 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs. Sick Picks Carson: AlpineJS, Datastar Shameless Plugs Carson: Hypermedia Systems, HTMX Swag Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Scott:X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads

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