Disorder26 Mar 2024

Ep30. Is there Order in the universe? Or are we all the playthings of chance?

Can we ever truly achieve Order in the international system? Or is life itself just a deterministic jumble of uncontrollable events? Do humans crave order so much that they perceive it even when it is absent – leading to conspiracy theories? And should policymakers avoid optimization and prediction and embrace experimentation, resilience, and slack to fix the problems of our era of Global Enduring Disorder? This week we celebrate the six-month anniversary of Disorder, by talking with a guest from our very first episode, the man who inspired this podcast, Brian Klaas. Brian’s page-turning new book ‘Fluke: Chance, Chaos, and Why Everything We Do Matters’, is not only a dynamic read, it has much to say about whether our lives, our politics, and our relationships can ever be truly ordered. In the conversation, Brian and Jason agree disagreeably about the following issues: do most people believe that good things happen to good people, that one’s lot in life is somehow earned, and that ‘things happen for a reason’? Can some disorder be good in our personal lives? Is Order a spiritual rather than a rational virtue? Twitter: @DisorderShow Subscribe to our Substack: https://natoandtheged.substack.com/ Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/ Producer: George McDonagh Exec Producer: Neil Fearn Show Notes Links Pick up Fluke by visiting - https://brianpklaas.com/fluke For more of Brian’s writing visit - https://www.forkingpaths.co/ Listen to a great audio overview of the book here Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Ep 208. General Ben Hodges: 25 years after 9/11 — can the West relearn strategy?

Twenty-five years after 9/11, did America respond to an attack on the Western Order by inadvertently helping to disorder that Order itself?Jason is joined by Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Ben Hodges, former Command...

14 Sep 50min

Ep 207. Is Europe's 80-Year Order Finally Collapsing?

A great power battle is emerging between Russia, China and Washington… and Europe teeters on the edge of all three. Could this break up the union? And is the European reliance on America over?To find ...

10 Sep 29min

Ep 206. The Ancient Linguistic Order with Laura Spinney

This week, Jason is joined by one of his academic idols, Laura Spinney. Laura is a much-esteemed author of Pale Rider: The Spanish Flu of 1918 and How it Changed the World, and her incredible newer bo...

8 Sep 57min

Ep 205. Arthur Snell Returns: Iran, Burnham, Bond Markets and Climate Disorder

This week Jason is joined by old friend and former Disorder co-host Arthur Snell, former British diplomat, host of Behind the Lines, and author of Elemental: The New Geography of Climate Change and Ho...

1 Sep 56min

Ep 204. Part 2: The Making of the Modern Middle East with Simon Sebag Montefiore

In this episode, we return to Simon Sebag Montefiore’s tour de force, The Cauldron: The Making of the Modern Middle East. Jason and Sebag divide the continuation of their discussion into two parts: 1)...

27 Aug 47min

Ep 203. The Making of the Modern Middle East--Part 1 with Simon Sebag Montefiore

This week, Jason is joined by esteemed British historian and author, Simon Sebag Montefiore, to discuss his latest book, The Cauldron: The Making of the Modern Middle East. Jason and Sebag’s discussi...

25 Aug 46min

Ep 202. The spy who duped me - Charles Cumming reveals all

Welcome to ‘Out of Order’ with Mark Lobel. A new series, in partnership with Disorder. Remarkable people, unguarded. Each month, Emmy nominated journalist Mark Lobel meets some of the world’s most ...

18 Aug 1h 4min

Ep 201. Rerun: Why Backgammon Can Help us Order the Disorder

To celebrate Jason's 2nd place finish at the World Backgammon Championships, we're rerunning a classic episode of Disorder; centred around the game itself and the lessons it provides for the Mega Orde...

13 Aug 53min