4/8 Manchester Arena Bombing On Trial

4/8 Manchester Arena Bombing On Trial

Please be aware, this series will be examining a deadly bombing and we will be discussing details of death and injury. Listener discretion is advised.


Examining the Conspiracy Theories Around the Manchester Arena Bombing

The 2017 Manchester Arena bombing was a tragic event that left 22 people dead and hundreds more injured. However, in the years since, a number of conspiracy theories have emerged claiming the attack was a hoax. One of the main proponents of this theory is Richard D. Hall, who has produced a book and documentary called "The Night of the Bang" alleging the victims were crisis actors.

In this 8-part podcast series, we aim to meticulously examine the claims made by Hall and others, assess the evidence, and uncover the truth behind this divisive event. As content creators, we recognize the responsibility we have to approach these sensitive discussions with great care.

The first half of the series will present Hall's arguments and the conspiracy theory in detail. We will then spend the second half deconstructing these claims and determining where the truth lies. This balanced approach is crucial, as conspiracy theories around tragic events can have devastating consequences.

We've already seen how these false narratives can fracture communities and lead to the harassment of victims and their families. The recent legal action taken by Manchester Arena survivors Martin and Eve Hibbert against Hall is a landmark case, the first of its kind in the UK against a "disaster troll.”

The Hibberts are seeking an injunction to prevent Hall from making similar allegations in the future, as well as damages. Their lawyer has described Hall's actions as "appalling" and hopes this case will set a precedent to better protect survivors of tragedies from such harassment.

This issue also highlights the challenges lawmakers and social media platforms face in addressing the spread of disinformation and abuse online. While new legislation like the UK's Online Safety Bill aims to improve user protections, there are still debates over how far such laws can and should go.

Ultimately, the Manchester Arena bombing conspiracy theories demonstrate the very real harm that can result when facts are obscured and victims are re-traumatized. As we delve into this complex topic, our goal is to provide a thoughtful, nuanced examination - one that honours the memory of those lost and supports the recovery of the survivors.

By rigorously analysing the evidence and ethical implications, we hope to cut through the noise and misinformation, offering listeners a clearer understanding of this tragic event and the importance of responsible journalism in the face of conspiracy theories.

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Can AI Reduce Conspiracy Beliefs? Testing MIT’s DebunkBot - An In-Depth Review.

Can AI Reduce Conspiracy Beliefs? Testing MIT’s DebunkBot - An In-Depth Review.

Today we are releasing the full episode of "Testing MIT’s DebunkBot". This was a premium episode, previously only available for our Patreons. Please consider supported us on Patreon for other exclusive episodes and benefits including early releases and ad-free content. Our members currently have access to the next 10 episodes of "The World According To Some" so join us and don't get left behind!https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy In today's "premium unleashed" episode, Brent Lee and Neil Sanders embarked on a deep dive to test a new AI chatbot called "DebunkBot" developed by MIT, which is touted to reduce conspiratorial beliefs by 20%.Our journey began with a discussion about the chatbot's capabilities and some initial expectations. As former conspiracists turned debunking enthusiasts, we were keen to explore its effectiveness from our unique vantage point. We simulated our past selves and presented DebunkBot with some of the prominent 9/11-related conspiracy theories, such as the controlled demolition theory, the NORAD war games, and the lack of CCTV footage at the Pentagon.The conversation with DebunkBot was enlightening. It provided detailed responses to each point we raised, explaining the structural collapse of the Twin Towers with insights on building construction and weight distribution, clarifying the routine nature of NORAD's war games and the ensuing initial confusion among responders, and delving into the technical limitations of the Pentagon’s CCTV footage during the attack. The bot was well-equipped with official narratives backed by credible evidence from multiple lines of sources, such as physical plane components, eyewitness testimony, and flight data.Despite the solid responses, we identified several areas where DebunkBot fell short. The explanations, although factually sound, often lacked the depth required to sway deeply entrenched conspiracy theorists. The chatbot delivered answers that were too straightforward, potentially missing the layers of skepticism that seasoned conspiracy believers entertain. We observed that it could appear patronizing and insufficient for those ingrained in these beliefs.To enhance DebunkBot's effectiveness, we suggested a few improvements:1. **Deeper Engagement**: Incorporate more nuanced discussions that consider the various levels of skepticism and alternate narratives conspiracy theorists might hold.2. **Personalized Responses**: Tailor responses to align with the specific doubts or assumptions the questioning individual may harbor, bridging the gap between casual skepticism and deep-seated belief.3. **Interactive Evidence Presentation**: Use interactive elements to present evidence in a more compelling and engaging manner, such as visual aids or comparisons that directly counter alternate theories.4. **Audience Trust Building**: Develop strategies to build trust with users who inherently distrust official narratives, perhaps by showing behind-the-scenes transparency of how evidence is verified and vetted.5. **Expanded Fact-Checking Capabilities**: Ensure the bot can access a broader range of verifiable sources and provide real-time links to comprehensive, detailed explanations and rebuttals.6. **Tone and Approach Variation**: Offer different tones of responses, from formal to jokey, to make the interaction more relatable and less confrontational.Ultimately, our test of DebunkBot demonstrated that while it’s a promising tool for debunking conspiracy theories with credible evidence, there is a significant need for adjustments to more effectively engage and persuade those deeply immersed in conspiracy thinking. As such, continued refinement and enhancing its capability to address both surface-level and deeply ingrained queries hold the key to its wider acceptance and success.Try DebunkBot yourself at https://www.debunkbot.com/ Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

28 Aug 1h 6min

The World According To Some (14)

The World According To Some (14)

As the planet spirals into a fascist dystopia, we thought someone really should keep a record of this decline. So that, when the aliens are sifting through the ashes of civilization - they might be able to see where it all went wrong. This is "The World According To Some"... or as all the hepcats are calling it "T.W.A.T.S!”Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

21 Aug 1h 22min

The World According To Some (13)

The World According To Some (13)

As the planet spirals into a fascist dystopia, we thought someone really should keep a record of this decline. So that, when the aliens are sifting through the ashes of civilization - they might be able to see where it all went wrong. This is "The World According To Some"... or as all the hepcats are calling it "T.W.A.T.S!”Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

13 Aug 1h 49min

The Final Warning of Michael Yeadon

The Final Warning of Michael Yeadon

Mike Yeadon has released his Final Warning documentary. Some are saying it is the most important film you will ever see, Whereas some are saying its a massive pile of 💩. Find out where the truth lies. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

7 Aug 2h 7min

The World According To Some (12)

The World According To Some (12)

The Thursday Twattery has arrived!!!As the planet spirals into a fascist dystopia, we thought someone really should keep a record of this decline. So that, when the aliens are sifting through the ashes of civilization - they might be able to see where it all went wrong. This is "The World According To Some"... or as all the hepcats are calling it "T.W.A.T.S!”AD FREE EPISODES ARE AVAILABLE AT https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy FOR JUST $2 PER MONTH TWO EPISODES PER WEEK AVAILABLE FOR $5 (PATREONS ARE CURRENTLY 7 EPISODES OF T.W.A.T.S. AHEAD OF SPOTIFY/APPLE USERS) JOIN US AND SUPPORT THE PODCASTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

31 Jul 1h 16min

The World According To Some (11)

The World According To Some (11)

As the planet spirals into a fascist dystopia, we thought someone really should keep a record of this decline. So that, when the aliens are sifting through the ashes of civilization - they might be able to see where it all went wrong. This is "The World According To Some"... or as all the hepcats are calling it "T.W.A.T.S!”AD FREE EPISODES ARE AVAILABLE AT https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy FOR JUST $2 PER MONTH TWO EPISODES PER WEEK AVAILABLE FOR $5 (PATREONS ARE CURRENTLY 5 EPISODES OF T.W.A.T.S. AHEAD OF SPOTIFY/APPLE USERS) JOIN US AND SUPPORT THE PODCASTTopics today include:1. Trump thinks he’s Napoleon2. Elon has another child, Milo is creepy Alex Jones is a sycophant3. Elon is deformed?4. David Icke and Alex Jones continue to bicker5. Media call out Trump6. John Major calls out Trump7. 200 year olds collecting social security?8. Javier Milei crypto fascist?9. German insult laws10. David vs Alex continues11. Richard D Hall is back in courtThis episode of T.W.A.T.S. looks back at the events of 16/17 of February 2025Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

24 Jul 1h 45min

The Turner Diaries Part Two (with Greg Hall)

The Turner Diaries Part Two (with Greg Hall)

We’re back for Part Two of our deep dive into The Turner Diaries, and if you thought things couldn’t get more outrageous, buckle up. This episode, we wade through the book’s most jaw-dropping plot twists—mass murder, drive-by bombings, and a logic so twisted it would make a pretzel jealous.As we dissect the second half, the book’s attempts to blame “the media” for the public’s resistance to terrorism are almost as laughable as its wild leaps of logic. And then there’s the infamous claim that feminism somehow leads to the legalization of rape—a narrative so ridiculous, we had to double-check we weren’t reading satire. Spoiler: we weren’t.Of course, the racism and antisemitism get dialed up to eleven, with the author spinning conspiracy theories that would be right at home in some of today’s darkest internet corners. But as always, we don’t just call out the hate—we skewer it with our signature humour. Sometimes, the only way to confront such absurdity is to laugh at it, and we make sure to highlight just how preposterous these arguments really are.Throughout the episode, we reflect on how far society has come (and how far we still have to go) in challenging bigotry and hate. With Greg Hall’s insights and our own lived experiences, we draw connections between these extremist ideas and the rhetoric we see online today.So join us as we take on the most toxic parts of The Turner Diaries - armed with critical thinking, a refusal to let hate go unchallenged, and, as always, a healthy dose of irreverence. It’s grim, it’s outrageous, but we promise it’s never boring.- Recap of Part One and the escalation of violence in the book’s plot (including mass murder and bombings)- Analysis of the novel’s attempts to blame the media for public resistance to the “Organization”- Dissection of the book’s absurd logic: drive-by bombings, casual sexism, and the demonization of liberalism- Deep dive into the most ludicrous narrative twist—claiming feminism leads to the legalization of rape- Examination of the book’s overt racism and antisemitism, including wild conspiracy tropes about minorities and Jews- Discussion on how the novel frames progressive social changes as existential threats and slippery slopes- Hosts and guest react to the most shocking, offensive, and preposterous passages—with trademark SDCIC humour- Drawing parallels between the book’s rhetoric and current far-right talking points online and in media- Reflection on changing social attitudes and the importance of challenging bigotry, racism, and sexism- Greg Hall shares insights on how these extremist ideas have evolved and spread in modern discourse- Emphasis on using satire, wit, and critical thinking to dismantle hate-filled narrativesAD FREE EPISODES ARE AVAILABLE AT https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy FOR JUST $2 PER MONTH TWO EPISODES PER WEEK AVAILABLE FOR $5 (PATREONS ARE CURRENTLY 5 EPISODES OF T.W.A.T.S. AHEAD OF SPOTIFY/APPLE USERS) JOIN US AND SUPPORT THE PODCASTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

17 Jul 2h 32min

The Turner Diaries Part One (with Greg Hall)

The Turner Diaries Part One (with Greg Hall)

Hello Initiates! A little something different for you this week! The first of our two part, 4 1/2 hour deep dive into the notorious Turner Diaries - a book so extreme, we had to double-check it wasn’t satire. Spoiler: it’s deadly serious, but that didn’t stop us from bringing our signature irreverence to the discussion.Here, in Part One, we break down the early chapters and try to make sense of the book’s wildest claims.. from drive-by bombings to the jaw-dropping idea that feminism would somehow lead to the legalization of rape. The hateful rhetoric is appalling, but the logic is so twisted, sometimes all you can do is laugh.We don’t pull punches calling out the racism, misogyny, and antisemitism, but we also make sure to highlight just how preposterous and self-defeating these arguments are. Because honestly, ridicule is one of the best tools we have against hate.Throughout the episode, we reflect on how far society has come (and how far we still have to go) in challenging bigotry and conspiracy thinking. With Greg Hall’s insights and our own lived experiences, we connect the dots between these extremist ideas and the rhetoric we see online today.So join us as we take on The Turner Diaries armed with critical thinking, a refusal to let hate go unchallenged, and, as always, a healthy dose of SDCIC humour. It’s grim, it’s outrageous, but we promise it’s never boring.- We introduce The Turner Diaries and its author, William Pierce, setting the stage for why this book matters in extremist circles.- Break down the early plot: the “Organization’s” violent tactics, including bombings and drive-by attacks.- Highlight the book’s ludicrous leaps in logic—especially its claim that feminism leads to the legalization of rape.- Call out the novel’s overt racism, antisemitism, and scapegoating, exposing its conspiracy tropes.- Discuss how the book frames liberalism, feminism, and civil rights as existential threats.- Share our real-time reactions to the most shocking and preposterous passages.- Draw parallels between the book’s arguments and today’s far-right talking points and online discourse.- Reflect on how attitudes toward race, gender, and tolerance have changed—and why challenging bigotry is crucial.- Greg Hall brings context on the roots of modern extremist rhetoric and the dangers of normalizing hate.- Through it all, we tackle the book’s absurdities with our signature SDCIC humour, making sure even the darkest material gets the ridicule it deserves.LISTEN TO PART TWO: https://www.patreon.com/posts/turner-diaries-132792226AD FREE EPISODES ARE AVAILABLE AT https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy FOR JUST $2 PER MONTH TWO EPISODES PER WEEK AVAILABLE FOR $5 (PATREONS ARE CURRENTLY 5 EPISODES OF T.W.A.T.S. AHEAD OF SPOTIFY/APPLE USERS) JOIN US AND SUPPORT THE PODCASTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

9 Jul 2h 2min

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