Episode #179: ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ 4×12, ‘Angel’ 1×12 – The Nerd Center

Join us as we discuss Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 4, episode 12, “A New Man,” and Angel season 1, episode 12, “Expecting.”

Superfans: Selina and Caitlin
Newbies: Ariana and Kristen

Fun Facts:

Caitlin is still decorating her apartment, but she wins this week's fun facts because she's going to look at puppies. Kristen is excited to go see her Detroit Lions play. Ariana is watching Underground, which has Marc Blucas (known to Buffy fans as Riley Finn) as an abolitionist. Selina got to see Bridget Jones' Baby at the Danish premiere and had some good times looking for celebrities with her brother.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 4, episode 12, "A New Man":
-Synopsis
-Initial reactions
-Happy birthday, Buffy!
-This could have been the worst birthday ever.
-Walsh vs. Giles: Does Buffy actually lack a father-figure, or was Walsh just hitting below the belt?
-Giles may not have handled this confrontation very well.
-The Giles/Buffy dynamic: Do we feel badly for Giles this episode?
-Does Walsh have ulterior motives for wanting Buffy in her ranks?
-Riley has killed 17 demons/vampires. Buffy killed 17, like, last night.
-Willow and Tara sense another source of power. Was that Ethan?
-Ethan gets caught monologuing, and then Giles and Ethan go bro out at a bar.
-Demon Giles. So many thoughts.
-We discuss whether we were actually scared for Giles' well-being.
-So many Spike thoughts. Is he truly evil?
-Thank goodness for that not-so-silver letter opener.
-Buffy is mighty and she is bringing Riley along with her. The Initiative can just deal.
-Walsh and Room 314. What is all this 314 nonsense?
-Favorite scenes
-Favorite lines

Angel season 1, episode 12, "Expecting":
-Synopsis
-Love it or hate it?
-We're not a fan of Cordy being the damsel in distress again and again.
-Sex is bad. It only has bad consequences.
-Those egg things from the beginning are seemingly completely unrelated to the giant demon at the end.
-Vinnie Van Lowe is not to be trusted.
-Dennis was trying to protect Cordy! Or was he just jealous?
-Mitch chimes in from the doc to tell us he's seeing the Wangel tension.
-How would this episode have been with Doyle instead of Wesley?
-Favorite scenes
-Favorite lines

Listener Feedback:
-We have the results from the best forearms poll!
-Someone appreciates Demon!Giles scaring Professor Walsh as much as we do.
-You definitely can't trust Vinnie Van Lowe. Even if you are happy to see him.
-"You have but face" has another vote for best Buffy line ever.
-Groupthink is definitely in play when it comes to Baby Jeremy Renner.

Ariana's Answers:

-Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 4, episode 13, "The I in Team": Buffy loses her powers and they have to truly work as a team, but Buffy is sore about it the whole time.
-Angel season 1, episode 13, "She": Angel gets turned into a beautiful lady and he and Cordy braid each other's hair.

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