#34 – Growth experiments & playbooks (Wiz Abdulla & Ben Grynol)

#34 – Growth experiments & playbooks (Wiz Abdulla & Ben Grynol)

Growth at an early-stage startup involves running series of experiments to learn about a hypothesis. Growth is not based a specific playbook, or a prescriptive plan that people can transfer from one company to the next. Rather, growth experiments are based on an amalgamation of insights from differing areas of a business, and even within the world.


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Wiz Abdulla, an investor in Levels, understands growth experiments at their foundation. Often, he has portfolio companies reach out to him for help about ways in which they can start ramping up growth within their companies.

So, what better way to give people insight about Levels' "book of plays" than to have a conversation about the way that we think about growth experiments.

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(01:16) - There is no one size fits all growth playbook
(06:32) - The dangers of following a prescriptive playbook
(09:00) - The 3 principles of growth
(13:14) - The 4 pillars of growth at Levels
(20:57) - How to think about growth investments
(24:22) - Acquiring more customers might not be the answer
(26:21) - How can you get creative like Casey Neistat
(32:57) - How the Levels Culture project came about
(38 :49) - Launching the Coke Challenge experiment
(39:49) - Iterating on experiments to unlock new growth
(43:54) - The importance of being data informed vs data driven

Transcripts & Show Notes

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#69 - How sugar affects kids (Austin McGuffie & Dr. Robert Lustig)

#69 - How sugar affects kids (Austin McGuffie & Dr. Robert Lustig)

Content Creator, Austin McGuffie, AKA Metabolism Mentor, sat down with Levels advisor and author of Metabolical, Dr. Robert Lustig, to chat about Rob's insight on kids sugar intake and how it affects ...

31 Jan 202253min

#68 - Member Story: Committing to a glucose monitor for one year (Natalie Vanderpump & Ben Grynol)

#68 - Member Story: Committing to a glucose monitor for one year (Natalie Vanderpump & Ben Grynol)

Levels Head of Growth, Ben Grynol, sat down with one of our longtime members, Natalie Vanderpump, to chat about her journey with Levels and how it has helped improve her diet and her overall health an...

28 Jan 202249min

#67 - Treat people like adults (Sam Corcos, Josh Clemente & Mike Haney)

#67 - Treat people like adults (Sam Corcos, Josh Clemente & Mike Haney)

Levels Editorial Director, Mike Haney, sat down with Co-Founders, Sam Corcos and Josh Clemente, to discuss one of our key principles here at Levels, Treat People Like Adults. Sign Up to Get Your Free...

26 Jan 20221h 13min

#66 - Nature Wants Us to Be Fat (Dr. Casey Means & Dr. Richard Johnson)

#66 - Nature Wants Us to Be Fat (Dr. Casey Means & Dr. Richard Johnson)

Dr. Casey Means, Chief Medical Officer of Levels speaks with Dr. Richard Johnson about his new book, "Nature Wants Us to Be Fat," as well as his insights on the "survival switch" that drives our body ...

24 Jan 20221h 7min

#65 - Memos over Meetings (Tom Griffin & Ben Grynol)

#65 - Memos over Meetings (Tom Griffin & Ben Grynol)

Levels Head of Growth, Ben Grynol, sat down with Head of Partnerships, Tom Griffin, to chat about our memo culture at Levels, why it's crucial and how it compares to most meeting cultures. Sign Up to...

21 Jan 202251min

#64 - The Membership Economy (Robbie Baxter & Maz Brumand)

#64 - The Membership Economy (Robbie Baxter & Maz Brumand)

Levels Head of Business, Maz Brumand, sat down with speaker and bestselling author of “The Membership Economy,” Robbie Kellman Baxter. They chatted about the idea of membership as well as how it relat...

20 Jan 202252min

#63 - Unlimited vacation and taking one month off work (Hao Li & Ben Grynol)

#63 - Unlimited vacation and taking one month off work (Hao Li & Ben Grynol)

Ben Grynol, Levels Head of Growth, sat down with Software Engineer, Hao Li, to chat about Hao’s recent vacation, a one-month cross country road trip across Canada. Sign Up to Get Your Free Ultimate G...

19 Jan 202244min

#62 - The Podcast about…the Podcast (Sam Corcos, Josh Clemente & Ben Grynol)

#62 - The Podcast about…the Podcast (Sam Corcos, Josh Clemente & Ben Grynol)

Levels Head of Growth, Ben Grynol, sat down with Co-Founders, Sam Corcos and Josh Clemente, to chat about the current process for our podcast, "A Whole New Level." They dig into what's working, what i...

17 Jan 20221h 5min

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