How Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is Leading During “A Really Heavy Time”

How Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is Leading During “A Really Heavy Time”

Gretchen Whitmer might be one of the most down-to-earth politicians in America — the governor from Michigan began her conversation with Kara with a bawdy joke about menstruation that she takes with her to the debate stage, and at no point during the interview did she hesitate from cursing. But with the calls for President Biden to resign growing louder, the Governor is an unenviable position. She’s considered a rising star within the party, and potential presidential candidate by some, but as a co-chair for the Biden/Harris re-election campaign she has to toe the line without seeming unaware of concerns that Biden just isn’t up to the task. Governor Whitmer and Kara discuss the Democratic party’s current conundrum, as well as her new memoir, True Gretch, the infamous foiled attempt to kidnap and assassinate her, the best way for Biden (or any Democrat) to win Michigan’s 15 electoral votes, and her campaign slogan for 2028. Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find Kara on Threads/Instagram @karaswisher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Survivors Speak Out: Taking On the ‘Epstein Class’

Survivors Speak Out: Taking On the ‘Epstein Class’

It’s been more than a month since the Justice Department released the latest tranche of files related to its investigation of Jeffrey Epstein — around 3 million in total — yet the fallout shows no sig...

9 Mar 1h 13min

Friction Matters: Resistance Is a Feature, Not a Bug

Friction Matters: Resistance Is a Feature, Not a Bug

Friction gets an bad rap, according Jennifer Vail. As a tribologist, she studies interacting surfaces in relative motion, and she’s worked on everything from aerospace materials to syringes to dog foo...

5 Mar 53min

Gavin Newsom on His Memoir, Trump, and Plans for 2028

Gavin Newsom on His Memoir, Trump, and Plans for 2028

California Gov. Gavin Newsom is the current front runner on the list of Democrats eyeing a 2028 White House run. While he hasn’t made his presidential ambitions official, he has a new memoir out, call...

2 Mar 1h 13min

Why ‘Playing It Safe’ In Your Career Doesn’t Pay with VC Bill Gurley

Why ‘Playing It Safe’ In Your Career Doesn’t Pay with VC Bill Gurley

Bill Gurley, accomplished venture capitalist, longtime Silicon Valley “worrywart,” and early Uber backer, joins Kara Swisher to discuss how to build a career you love and the tech industry’s sharp tur...

26 Feb 1h 3min

The Story Behind Netflix’s Most Popular Film Ever

The Story Behind Netflix’s Most Popular Film Ever

Netflix’s “KPop Demon Hunters” wasn’t just one of the biggest movies of 2025; it was Netflix’s most popular title — movie or show — ever. Four songs from the film’s soundtrack also simultaneously crac...

23 Feb 57min

Inside the MAGA Blueprint for Breaking the Midterms

Inside the MAGA Blueprint for Breaking the Midterms

President Trump tried to overturn the 2020 presidential election, and he’s already laying the groundwork to undermine our confidence in the midterm elections. Kara brings together three experts to map...

19 Feb 59min

Scott Galloway: How to Hit Trump Where it Hurts (Unsubscribe)

Scott Galloway: How to Hit Trump Where it Hurts (Unsubscribe)

Scott Galloway is spearheading a consumer-led protest movement with a simple goal: to get people to cancel their subscriptions to tech companies that have disproportionate influence over the U.S. econ...

16 Feb 46min

Jane Fonda on How to Turn Rage Into Hope

Jane Fonda on How to Turn Rage Into Hope

Jane Fonda has been fighting for social justice for over five decades, but in the past year, she’s kicked things up a notch. This past fall, she relaunched the Committee for the First Amendment, and h...

12 Feb 49min

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