What happened to the metaverse?

What happened to the metaverse?

This week I’m talking to Matthew Ball, who was last on the show in 2022 to talk about his book “The Metaverse: How it Will Revolutionize Everything.” It’s 2024 and it’s safe to say that has not happened yet. But Matt’s still on the case — in fact he just released an almost complete update of the book, now with the much more sober title, “Building the Spatial Internet.” Matt and I talked a lot about where the previous metaverse hype cycle landed us, and what there is to learn from these boom and bust waves. We talked about the Apple Vision Pro quite a bit; if you read or watched my review when it came out, you’ll know I think the Vision Pro is almost an end point for one set of technologies. I wanted to know if Matt felt the same and what needs to happen to make all of this more mainstream and accessible. Links: Fully revised and updated edition to the “The Metaverse” | W.W. Norton Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not | The Verge Apple’s Vision Pro: five months later | Vergecast Is the metaverse going to suck? A conversation with Matthew Ball | Decoder Interviewing Meta CTO Andrew Bosworth on the Metaverse, VR/AR, AI | Matthew Ball Interviewing Epic CEO Tim Sweeney and author Neal Stephenson | Matthew Ball An Interview with Matthew Ball about Vision Pro and the state of gaming | Stratechery Tim Sweeney explains how the metaverse might actually work | The Verge Fortnite is winning the metaverse | The Verge Is the Metaverse Just Marketing? | NYT Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Callie Wright. Our supervising producer is Liam James. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Recode Decode: Dick Costolo, Former Twitter CEO

Recode Decode: Dick Costolo, Former Twitter CEO

Former Twitter CEO Dick Costolo sits down with Kara Swisher to talk about what he's doing next, what he thinks of Twitter's future under Jack Dorsey and why men often fail to "do diversity." Later, Lauren Goode wheels in to Kara's desk to answer readers' questions about "hoverboards." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

7 Des 201555min

Recode Decode: Ricky Van Veen, CollegeHumor Co-Founder

Recode Decode: Ricky Van Veen, CollegeHumor Co-Founder

In this first episode of Peter Kafka's new weekly "Re/code Decode" interviews, CollegeHumor co-founder Ricky Van Veen sits down with Peter to talk about monetizing content on the Internet and why it's so hard. Plus: Why is a lot of that content moving to "old" platforms like TV, and who's more powerful, Rupert Murdoch or Mark Zuckerberg? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Recode Decode: Brian Chesky, Airbnb CEO

Recode Decode: Brian Chesky, Airbnb CEO

Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky talks with Kara Swisher about being in Paris during the city's recent terror attacks, and what the hospitality company is doing after a major political win in San Francisco. Later, Lauren Goode gets a new job as Kara's personal shopper, with some help from The Verge's holiday gift guide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

30 Nov 201553min

Recode Decode: B.J. Novak and Dev Flaherty, The List App Co-Founders

Recode Decode: B.J. Novak and Dev Flaherty, The List App Co-Founders

The List App co-founders B.J. Novak and Dev Flaherty talk about their new mobile-social app for making lists and how tech is changing the entertainment world. Later, Lauren Goode joins Kara to talk about Apple's new iPad Pro and whether it's worth the upgrade. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

25 Nov 201550min

Recode Decode: Brent Bushnell and Eric Gradman, Two Bit Circus Co-Founders

Recode Decode: Brent Bushnell and Eric Gradman, Two Bit Circus Co-Founders

Two Bit Circus CEO Brent Bushnell and CTO Eric Gradman talk with Kara Swisher about their high-tech circus, STEAM Carnival; fixing education; and why playing games will break down kids' aversion to the sciences. Later, Lauren Goode finds out if the new BlackBerry Priv is good enough to challenge Kara's iPhone. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

18 Nov 201544min

Recode Decode: Aaron Levie, Box CEO

Recode Decode: Aaron Levie, Box CEO

Box CEO Aaron Levie talks with Kara Swisher about the next wave of enterprise companies and why having $80,000 is better than having $10 million. Later on: How could switching between iOS and Android be easier? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11 Nov 201552min

Recode Decode: Sequoia Capital Chairman Sir Michael Moritz

Recode Decode: Sequoia Capital Chairman Sir Michael Moritz

Venture capitalist and co-author of "Leading" Michael Moritz talks with Kara Swisher about the history and future of investing and leadership. Later on: Do food delivery services have a place outside of San Francisco? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

4 Nov 201556min

Recode Decode: Huffington Post Editor in Chief Arianna Huffington

Recode Decode: Huffington Post Editor in Chief Arianna Huffington

Huffington Post editor-in-chief Arianna Huffington talks with Kara Swisher about why journalism is going mobile, but she won?t take her phone to bed. Later on: is 4K TV the future, or just hype? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

28 Okt 201537min

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