White House Chief Of Staff Ron Klain, Rick Wilson & Tim O’Brien

White House Chief Of Staff Ron Klain, Rick Wilson & Tim O’Brien

On the first episode of the pod we’re lucky enough to be joined by White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain. He tells us how the White House makes decisions to keep a big tent party happy, and how to deal with the unprecedented constant rabble-rousing of a former president pretending he is still the ruler of the free world. We also have the reunion that political junkies have been waiting for—after 20 months of being apart, Rick Wilson & Molly Jong-Fast get the band back together to discuss the midterms and Donald Trump’s very bad week. If that weren’t enough, Bloomberg Opinion editor and long-time Trump business expert Tim O’Brien breaks down the former president’s mounting legal troubles. Oh yeah, and we also learn what Trump’s dance moves are like when no one is watching.

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Rick Wilson & James Kimmel

Rick Wilson & James Kimmel

The Lincoln Project’s Rick Wilson examines the No King Protest, Trump’s sad birthday fascist display, and the rise of political violence. James Kimmel details his new book The Science of Revenge: Understanding the World's Deadliest Addiction—and How to Overcome It.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

16 Jun 45min

Charlie Sykes & Ed Luce

Charlie Sykes & Ed Luce

To The Contrary newsletter author Charlie Sykes examines the escalation of Trump’s actions since his first administration. Ed Luce details his new book Zbig: The Life of Zbigniew Brzezinski, America's Great Power Prophet.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

14 Jun 47min

Andy Levy & Brian Merchant

Andy Levy & Brian Merchant

As The World Churns’ Andy Levy examines the fallout from the Trump and Musk feud.Blood in the Machine author Brian Merchant details how AI is already quietly killing job prospects in America.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

12 Jun 50min

Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, Mayor Karen Bass & Jacob Rubashkin

Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, Mayor Karen Bass & Jacob Rubashkin

Inside Elections’ Jacob Rubashkin examines his new report on how the House is shaping up for the midterms. Democratic House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries details the status of the Big Beautiful Bullshit Bill. Plus, we have a special bonus interview with L.A. Mayor Karen Bass on the status of Donald Trump unleashing chaos in her city.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

11 Jun 54min

Rick Wilson & David A. Graham

Rick Wilson & David A. Graham

The Lincoln Project’s Rick Wilson skewers Trump weaponizing the National Guard against protesters.David A. Graham details his new book The Project: How Project 2025 Is Reshaping America.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

9 Jun 48min

 Stuart Stevens & John Cassidy

Stuart Stevens & John Cassidy

The Lincoln Project’s Stuart Stevens parses Elon and Trump’s breakup and the case for nationalizing SpaceX and Starlink. The New Yorker’s John Cassidy details his book Capitalism and Its Critics: A History — From the Industrial Revolution to AI.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

7 Jun 47min

Dan Nathan & Alan Elrod

Dan Nathan & Alan Elrod

Risk Reversal’s Dan Nathan details the business world's reaction to Trump’s insane tariffs. Alan Elrod examines their brilliant new article You’re Not Crazy. America Has Gone Mad.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

5 Jun 46min

Dana Milbank &  Marc Dunkelman

Dana Milbank & Marc Dunkelman

The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank examines the turning of the tide against Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill. Marc Dunkelman details his new book Why Nothing Works: Who Killed Progress―and How to Bring It Back.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

4 Jun 42min

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