El Podcast10 Jan 2023

E15: How Austerity Paved the Road to Fascism

Clara Mattei, economist and author of The Capital Order, argues that austerity is not a neutral economic policy but a tool historically used to suppress working-class power and preserve capitalist order—even under fascism.

Guest Bio: Clara E. Mattei is an Assistant Professor of Economics at The New School for Social Research in New York City. She earned her PhD in Economics from the Sant’Anna School of Advanced Studies in Pisa, Italy, and is the author of The Capital Order: How Economists Invented Austerity and Paved the Way to Fascism.

Topics Discussed:

The historical origins of austerity in post-WWI Britain and Italy
How austerity disciplines the working class and protects capital
Parallels between Mussolini's fascist Italy and contemporary liberal democracies
The illusion of economic neutrality in policymaking
The possibility of non-market-based democratic economies
The political function of inflation and interest rate hikes
Alternatives to capitalist organization of production

3 Best Quotes:

“Fascism was never fully expelled from capitalism. The suppression of the working class is foundational—not exceptional.”
“Austerity is not about fiscal responsibility—it’s about disciplining labor and safeguarding profit.”
“Planning doesn't have to mean authoritarianism. It can mean democratic control over what and how we produce.”

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