El Podcast17 Jul 2023

E36: Why Lab-Grown Food Won’t Save Us

A conversation with Chris Smaje on why lab-grown food won't solve our problems—and why local, ecological farming is the real path forward.

👤 Guest Bio: Chris Smaje
Chris Smaje is a UK-based social scientist, writer, and small-scale farmer with two decades of hands-on agricultural experience. He’s a leading advocate for agroecology and local food systems, and author of A Small Farm Future and Saying No to a Farm-Free Future.

🧠 Topics Discussed

What is “precision fermentation” and why it's gaining traction
The rise of lab-grown protein vs. traditional farming
The myth of land-free food and its corporate backers
Energy inputs, ecological tradeoffs, and food monopolies
The geopolitical unraveling of the global food trade
The cultural disconnect caused by synthetic food
Why local food production is a necessary response to climate and economic disruption
Progress, politics, populism, and what comes after globalism

💬 Top Quotes

“We're being told food is software—but sunlight is still free. Manufactured food isn't.”

“If you move people off the land and into cities, you're not solving ecological problems—you're centralizing control.”

“The problem isn't farming—it's how we farm and who controls it.”

“Progress isn’t spending more time on your phone. It’s being part of a thriving community and growing your own food.”

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