Should you design services or experiences? / Joe Pine / Episode #50

Should you design services or experiences? / Joe Pine / Episode #50

In this episode Joe Pine explains why it's so important that we understand the distinctions between services and experiences. There are no markets. There are just customers! So we need to stop marketing and start customering. What's customering you ask? Joe explains it in detail. Finally we discuss the different roles of the Chief Experience Officer (CXO) and why this is a vital role in companies that want to survive in the experience economy. Would you like to win a SIGNED copy of The Experience Economy? Check the episode for details and read the rules below! ---------------------------------------- EPISODE GUIDE 03:00 - The first encounter with Service Design. 06:30 - What is the difference between services and experiences? 15:35 - How can we move from marketing to customering? 26:47 - Who are chief experience officers? 35:22 - Big question: Which design business are you really in? 36:10 - Book Giveaway! ---------------------------------------- LINKS FROM THE EPISODE * Joe on LinkedIn ➜ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/l8523 * Reverse Customering Masterclass ➜ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/vflir * The Experience Economy (book) ➜ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/l3wsh * The Roles of the Chief Experience Officer (article) ➜ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/lgf8b * Strategic Horizons ➜ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/nhl8i MORE EPISODES Enjoyed the show? Take a look at some of the other episodes ➜ @servicedesignshow YOUTUBE CHANNEL Every episode of the Service Design Show is also available as via the official YouTube channel. https://go.servicedesignshow.com/youtube FACEBOOK PAGE Check the Facebook page where you'll find more content and can discuss the episodes. https://go.servicedesignshow.com/facebook HOW TO EXPLAIN SERVICE DESIGN Learn how you can get your clients, colleagues, managers, CEOs and even grandmas as excited about service design as you are! https://go.servicedesignshow.com/free-mini-course

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My Biggest Lessons from 250 Episodes / Marc Fonteijn / Ep. #250

My Biggest Lessons from 250 Episodes / Marc Fonteijn / Ep. #250

I'll let you in on a small secret...Ten years ago, the Service Design Show was never even supposed to be a podcast. And somehow here we are. We've officially hit episode 250. Its been a decade since I...

26 Mar 35min

How to Lead with Head and Heart in the Age of AI / Birgit Geiberger / Ep. #249

How to Lead with Head and Heart in the Age of AI / Birgit Geiberger / Ep. #249

This episode falls into a pattern that's hard to ignore...I'm seeing a growing undercurrent of design leaders strongly advocating for a more sustainable approach toward work and life.It is hard to sep...

12 Mar 1h 4min

Mastering The Most Important Tool in Your Design Toolkit / Inside Service Design / Kara & Sidd / Ep. #10

Mastering The Most Important Tool in Your Design Toolkit / Inside Service Design / Kara & Sidd / Ep. #10

Let's be real for a moment...In the corporate context, what's the thing that usually gets rewarded the most?It’s often the person who "just" grinds through the chaos, works overtime to fix a broken pr...

5 Mar 59min

How to Use Your Design Skills to Build Strategic Allies / Belén Tello / Ep. #248

How to Use Your Design Skills to Build Strategic Allies / Belén Tello / Ep. #248

It’s the one thing they didn't teach in design school...We spend years learning how to understand what drives our users, map out complex journeys, and deliver useful service prototypes. But when it co...

26 Feb 1h 3min

Sticky Notes vs. Software and The Fight for Our Legitimacy / Inside Service Design / Ep. #09

Sticky Notes vs. Software and The Fight for Our Legitimacy / Inside Service Design / Ep. #09

Are we being left behind...Let's think about this for a moment.Architects have AutoCAD. Finance folks have Excel. Sales teams have Salesforce. The list goes on.But what do we as service design profess...

19 Feb 59min

Where did all the Service Designers go? / Giulia Di Gregorio / Ep. #247

Where did all the Service Designers go? / Giulia Di Gregorio / Ep. #247

If you look at the current job market, you might notice something strange... The words "service design" seem to be slowly disappearing from job titles. Does that mean our field is shrinking, or worse,...

12 Feb 58min

From The Experience Economy to The Transformation Economy / Joe Pine / Ep. #246

From The Experience Economy to The Transformation Economy / Joe Pine / Ep. #246

A few months ago I finally hit a major milestone...After years of putting it off, I finally started taking golf lessons.Jasper, my coach (or "pro" as they say in the golf world), has been helping me d...

3 Feb 1h 5min

2026 Predictions ~ AI Agents, CX Engineers & The End of "Chat" / Jochem van der Veer / Episode #245

2026 Predictions ~ AI Agents, CX Engineers & The End of "Chat" / Jochem van der Veer / Episode #245

Imagine a world where you can simply look at your journey model and ask it why... Why, for example, is our customer churn spiking this quarter? How close are we to that reality?I invited my good frien...

15 Jan 1h 7min

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