Should you design services or experiences? / Joe Pine / Episode #50

Should you design services or experiences? / Joe Pine / Episode #50

In this episode Joe Pine explains why it's so important that we understand the distinctions between services and experiences. There are no markets. There are just customers! So we need to stop marketing and start customering. What's customering you ask? Joe explains it in detail. Finally we discuss the different roles of the Chief Experience Officer (CXO) and why this is a vital role in companies that want to survive in the experience economy. Would you like to win a SIGNED copy of The Experience Economy? Check the episode for details and read the rules below! ---------------------------------------- EPISODE GUIDE 03:00 - The first encounter with Service Design. 06:30 - What is the difference between services and experiences? 15:35 - How can we move from marketing to customering? 26:47 - Who are chief experience officers? 35:22 - Big question: Which design business are you really in? 36:10 - Book Giveaway! ---------------------------------------- LINKS FROM THE EPISODE * Joe on LinkedIn ➜ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/l8523 * Reverse Customering Masterclass ➜ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/vflir * The Experience Economy (book) ➜ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/l3wsh * The Roles of the Chief Experience Officer (article) ➜ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/lgf8b * Strategic Horizons ➜ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/nhl8i MORE EPISODES Enjoyed the show? Take a look at some of the other episodes ➜ @servicedesignshow YOUTUBE CHANNEL Every episode of the Service Design Show is also available as via the official YouTube channel. https://go.servicedesignshow.com/youtube FACEBOOK PAGE Check the Facebook page where you'll find more content and can discuss the episodes. https://go.servicedesignshow.com/facebook HOW TO EXPLAIN SERVICE DESIGN Learn how you can get your clients, colleagues, managers, CEOs and even grandmas as excited about service design as you are! https://go.servicedesignshow.com/free-mini-course

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2026 Predictions ~ AI Agents, CX Engineers & The End of "Chat" / Jochem van der Veer / Episode #245

2026 Predictions ~ AI Agents, CX Engineers & The End of "Chat" / Jochem van der Veer / Episode #245

Imagine a world where you can simply look at your journey model and ask it why... Why, for example, is our customer churn spiking this quarter? How close are we to that reality?I invited my good frien...

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The Hidden Cost of the "Perfect" Journey (and how to avoid it) / Kendra Shimmell / Ep. #244

The Hidden Cost of the "Perfect" Journey (and how to avoid it) / Kendra Shimmell / Ep. #244

Sorry, but I have to say it...We are optimizing our way to boredom.Measure everything, test every variation, and optimize the customer journey until it’s "perfect". That seems to be the mantra of mode...

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Designing for Truth in an Era of AI Hallucinations / Inside Service Design / Episode #08

Designing for Truth in an Era of AI Hallucinations / Inside Service Design / Episode #08

We need to talk about the "intern" sitting on your desktop...Come on, you know the one. Sure, they are fast, very eager to please, and can process data at lightning speeds. But they also have a bad ha...

25 Des 20251h 1min

Fighting the "Enshittification" of Experience / Dan Saffer / Ep. #243

Fighting the "Enshittification" of Experience / Dan Saffer / Ep. #243

Sure, design might be going through a tough period...But as the saying goes, "never waste a good crisis."So this moment of uncertainty, where everyone is wondering if (or rather when) AI will take ove...

18 Des 20251h 13min

How To Stay "Stubbornly Human" in an AI World / Inside Service Design / Ep. #07

How To Stay "Stubbornly Human" in an AI World / Inside Service Design / Ep. #07

Here is a hot take, empathy is becoming "theater"...I mean, it's that feeling you get when you receive a "hyper-personalized" yet clearly automated email saying "We are so deeply sorry to see you go"....

11 Des 20251h 1min

Designing for the Long Game: Self-Care as Professional Rigor / Rachael Dietkus / Ep. #242

Designing for the Long Game: Self-Care as Professional Rigor / Rachael Dietkus / Ep. #242

We often hear the "mantra" to move fast and break things...But what happens when the thing that breaks is you?For many service design professionals, this is the reality of their calendar: back-to-back...

4 Des 20251h 9min

How Vertical Storytelling Helps Translate Empathy into Business Value / Journey Management Playbook / Ep. #08

How Vertical Storytelling Helps Translate Empathy into Business Value / Journey Management Playbook / Ep. #08

Okay, we are pretty good storytellers... but are we telling the right story?As service design professionals, we nail it when it comes to what I call "Horizontal Storytelling". We can walk anyone throu...

27 Nov 20251h 8min

The Missing Link Between Service Design and Business Goals / Mark Howell / Ep. #241

The Missing Link Between Service Design and Business Goals / Mark Howell / Ep. #241

Service design, so what...That's a question still many people around us (rightfully) ask.And let's be honest, they'll probably keep asking it for the foreseeable future.It will take a very long time b...

20 Nov 20251h 9min

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