Andrew Sheets: What is Behind Equity Market Strength?

Andrew Sheets: What is Behind Equity Market Strength?

With equity markets showing strength in the face of slowing growth, investors are left wondering how, or if, they can remain resilient.


----- Transcript -----

Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Andrew Sheets, Chief Cross Assets Strategist for Morgan Stanley. Along with my colleagues bringing you a variety of perspectives, I'll be talking about trends across the global investment landscape and how we put those ideas together. It's Friday, April 21st at 2 p.m. in London.


Meeting with investors over the last several weeks, there's one question above all others that seems to be on people's mind. In the face of slowing growth, tightening policy, banking sector stresses and uninspiring valuations, why are markets, especially equity markets, so resilient?


Like many things in the market, there is no one reason, and it's also impossible to know for sure. But we have some suspicions about what is and isn't behind the strength and what that means going forward.


One trio of factors rolled out to explain this resiliency, is the idea that growth and earnings are holding up well, the Fed is once again injecting liquidity into the system, given recent banking sector challenges and investors are already so negative that the risks are well known. Yet each of these explanations seems to come up a little short.


Global growth in the first quarter was better than expected, but markets should care more about the forward looking outlook, which looks set for deceleration, while estimates for corporate earnings have generally been falling throughout the year. While the Fed did provide extra liquidity given recent banking sector challenges, this looks very different from traditional quantitative easing, especially as the banks continue to tighten their lending activity. And while sentiment feels cautious, perhaps as evidenced by the popularity of this question, measures that try to quantify that fear have generally normalized quite a bit and look a lot closer to average than extreme.


So what do we believe is going on? First, the stock market is often seen as a broad proxy for the economy or risk appetite, but in 2023 it's been unusually swayed by a small number of very large stocks in the U.S. and Europe. That still counts, of course, but it makes drawing broad conclusions about what the stock market is doing or saying a lot more difficult.

Second, recent banking issues created an odd dynamic where markets could celebrate the possibility of easier central bank policy almost immediately, while the real economic impact of tighter lending standards arrives at some uncertain point in the future. That provides an immediate boost for markets, but the fundamental challenges of that tighter bank lending are still to come.


Third, and just as important, the market tends to take a view that the end of central bank interest rate increases will be a positive. That is what the data says if you look across all hiking cycles since, say, 1980. But if you only look at times when the yield curve is inverted and the Fed has stopped hiking, like it is today, the picture looks a lot less rosy.


Market resilience has likely had several drivers. But with measures of sentiment starting to look more balanced, growth still set to slow and markets already expecting easier central bank policy than our economists expect, we think the outlook remains challenging as we look beyond April.


Thanks for listening. Subscribe to Thoughts on The Market on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen and leave us a review. We'd love to hear from you.

Episoder(1512)

Mike Wilson: The Virtuous Circle of Excess Liquidity

Mike Wilson: The Virtuous Circle of Excess Liquidity

On today's episode, Central banks seem likely to continue their balance sheet expansion into next year, driving lower volatility, more cash into equities… and some great expectations.

9 Des 20194min

Andrew Sheets: 2020 Playbook: Analyzing the Bear Case

Andrew Sheets: 2020 Playbook: Analyzing the Bear Case

In this special two part bull/bear series, Chief Cross-Asset Strategist Andrew Sheets shares insight on the catalysts that could hamper market returns in 2020.

6 Des 20192min

Michael Zezas: How Do Close U.S. Elections Affect Markets?

Michael Zezas: How Do Close U.S. Elections Affect Markets?

On today's episode, On average, election-year market performance varies by about 9% for elections that are narrow contests vs. elections with a clear frontrunner. So how could 2020 pan out?

4 Des 20191min

Mike Wilson: A Volatility Reprieve

Mike Wilson: A Volatility Reprieve

On today's episode, Whether it's called quantitative easing or not, the recent expansion in central bank balance sheets is having a profound impact on volatility - Chief Investment Officer Mike Wilson explains why.

2 Des 20194min

Michael Zezas: Optimism Over the U.S.-EU Auto Tariffs?

Michael Zezas: Optimism Over the U.S.-EU Auto Tariffs?

On today's episode, With a key deadline for U.S. tariffs on EU autos now past, could European stocks outperform in 2020? Head of Public Policy Michael Zezas shares some analysis.

27 Nov 20191min

Mike Wilson: Global Reflation: To Be or Not to Be?

Mike Wilson: Global Reflation: To Be or Not to Be?

On this episode, Chief Investment Officer Mike Wilson explains why global reflation may be back—and could be a powerful longer-term theme for portfolio allocations.

25 Nov 20194min

Andrew Sheets: Commodities Outlook 2020: Too Much of Everything?

Andrew Sheets: Commodities Outlook 2020: Too Much of Everything?

On this episode, Chief Cross-Asset Strategist Andrew Sheets says oversupply may spell headwinds for commodities in 2020 but there are exceptions.

22 Nov 20192min

Michael Zezas: The 2020 Election: 4 Sectors to Watch

Michael Zezas: The 2020 Election: 4 Sectors to Watch

On this episode, Head of Public Policy Michael Zezas says performance in four key sectors could be a bellwether for how investors view the outcome of next year’s elections.

20 Nov 20192min

Populært innen Business og økonomi

stopp-verden
dine-penger-pengeradet
e24-podden
rss-penger-polser-og-politikk
rss-borsmorgen-okonominyhetene
finansredaksjonen
livet-pa-veien-med-jan-erik-larssen
rss-vass-knepp-show
pengepodden-2
kommentarer-fra-aftenposten
stormkast-med-valebrokk-stordalen
okonomiamatorene
utbytte
morgenkaffen-med-finansavisen
rss-sunn-okonomi
tid-er-penger-en-podcast-med-peter-warren
lederpodden
aksjepodden
shifter
rss-andelige-tanker-med-camillo