Eyeing a Market of Many

Eyeing a Market of Many

The valuations of stocks and corporate bonds, which have been driven largely by macroeconomic factors since 2020, are finally starting to reflect companies’ underlying performance. Our Head of Corporate Credit Research explains what that means for active investors.


----- Transcript -----


Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Andrew Sheets, head of Corporate Credit Research at Morgan Stanley. Along with my colleagues bringing you a variety of perspectives, today I'll be talking about trends across the global investment landscape – and how we put those ideas together.

It's Friday, February 23rd at 2pm in London.

In theory, investing in corporate securities like stocks or corporate bonds should be about, well, the performance of those companies. But since the outbreak of COVID in 2020, financial markets have often felt driven by other, higher powers. The last several years have seen a number of big picture questions in focus: How fast could the economy recover? How much quantitative easing or quantitative tightening would we see? Would high inflation eventually moderate? And, more recently, when would central banks stop hiking rates, and start to cut.

All of these are important, big picture questions. But you can see where a self-styled investor may feel a little frustrated. None of those debates, really, concerns the underlying performance of a company, and the factors that might distinguish a good operator from a bad one.

If you’ve shared this frustration, we have some good news. While these big-picture debates may still dominate the headlines, underlying performance is starting to tell a different story. We’re seeing an unusual amount of dispersion between individual equities and credits. It is becoming a market of many.

We see this in so-called pairwise correlation, or the average correlation between any two stocks in an equity index. Globally, that’s been unusually low relative to the last 15 years. Notably options markets are implying that this remains the case. We see this in credit, where solid overall performance has occurred along-side significant dispersion by sector, maturity, and individual issuer, especially in telecom, media and technology.

We see this within equities, where my colleague Mike Wilson, Morgan Stanley’s CIO and Chief US Equity Strategist, notes that the S&P 500 and global stocks more broadly have decoupled from Federal Reserve rate expectations.

And we see this in performance. More dispersion between stocks and credit would, in theory, create a better environment for Active Managers, who attempt to pick those winners and losers. And that’s what we’ve seen. Per my colleagues in Morgan Stanley Investment Management, January 2024 was the best month for active management since 2007.

The post-COVID period has often felt dominated by large, macro debates. But more recently, things have been changing. Individual securities are diverging from one another, and moving with unusual independence. That creates its own challenges, of course. But it also suggests a market where picking the right names can be rewarded. And we think that will be music to many investors' ears.

Thanks for listening. Subscribe to Thoughts on the Market on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen, and leave us a review. We’d love to hear from you.

Episoder(1513)

Mike Wilson: 3 Sticking Points for U.S. Equities

Mike Wilson: 3 Sticking Points for U.S. Equities

U.S. equity markets have been stuck range bound due to three key concerns, but investors could use that uncertainty to their advantage.

26 Okt 20203min

U.S. Election 2020: Divided Government Scenarios

U.S. Election 2020: Divided Government Scenarios

In part two of our special election episode, we look at the policies that could potentially come out of divided party control among the White House, Senate and House, and how they might impact markets.

23 Okt 20207min

U.S. Election 2020: Straightaways and Detours

U.S. Election 2020: Straightaways and Detours

What is the road ahead for global markets between now and inauguration day? The answer may fall into two categories: straightaways and detours. Part one of a special two-part episode.

22 Okt 20209min

Michael Zezas: What's Going On With The U.S. Bond Market?

Michael Zezas: What's Going On With The U.S. Bond Market?

The yields on 10-year and 30-year Treasuries are now at multi-month highs, prompting some investors to ask “What’s going on?” Analysis from Head of U.S. Public Policy Michael Zezas.

21 Okt 20202min

Mike Wilson: Why the Correction May Not Be Over

Mike Wilson: Why the Correction May Not Be Over

Uncertainty about fiscal stimulus, the U.S. election and the pandemic could mean the correction isn’t over. However, one thematic opportunity could present itself.

19 Okt 20203min

Andrew Sheets: Are Markets Pricing-In Recent U.S. Election Polls?

Andrew Sheets: Are Markets Pricing-In Recent U.S. Election Polls?

Although many investors view markets as a highly efficient prognostic machine, the surprises of the 2016 election may have created more hesitancy to guess election outcomes.

16 Okt 20202min

Special Episode: Playing the Reopening and Recovery Into 2021

Special Episode: Playing the Reopening and Recovery Into 2021

On this Special Episode, Chief U.S. Economist Ellen Zentner talks with U.S. Equity Strategist Adam Virgadamo about the path to recovery and mispriced “reopening stocks.”

15 Okt 20209min

Michael Zezas: One Fewer Election Blind Spot?

Michael Zezas: One Fewer Election Blind Spot?

Although it’s possible that the results of the 2020 U.S. election won’t come on Nov. 3rd, there is some fresh evidence that it may unfold more smoothly than pundits predict.

14 Okt 20202min

Populært innen Business og økonomi

stopp-verden
dine-penger-pengeradet
e24-podden
rss-penger-polser-og-politikk
rss-borsmorgen-okonominyhetene
livet-pa-veien-med-jan-erik-larssen
pengepodden-2
rss-vass-knepp-show
finansredaksjonen
utbytte
tid-er-penger-en-podcast-med-peter-warren
okonomiamatorene
morgenkaffen-med-finansavisen
stormkast-med-valebrokk-stordalen
lederpodden
aksjepodden
rss-sunn-okonomi
rss-fri-kontantstrom
rss-andelige-tanker-med-camillo
rss-impressions-2