Ep. 405 Site of Service Differentials with Dr. Michael Cumming

In this episode of the BackTable Podcast, host Dr. Ally Baheti interviews Dr. Michael Cumming about the issue of site of service differentials in healthcare. Dr. Cumming is an interventional radiologist and the founder of Vascular and Interventional Experts. They discuss the history and the impact of these differentials, which often result in higher costs for identical services depending on the site they’re carried out in. For example, services offered within hospitals typically cost significantly more than those offered in ambulatory surgery centers or physician offices. The doctors also describe the role of key stakeholders such as lobbyists and industry players, the outcomes of care provided in various settings, and ongoing legislative efforts to address these issues. Finally, they discuss how physicians can advocate for high quality, value-based care. --- CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS Siemens Healthineers https://www.siemens-healthineers.com/ Varian, a Siemens Healthineers company https://www.varian.com/products/interventional-solutions/embolization-solutions --- SHOW NOTES 00:00 - Introduction 03:33 - Site of Service and Its Impact on Payment 06:15 - Role of CMS in Determining Payment 09:09 - Role of Advocacy Groups in Site of Service Payments 17:51 - Future of Site of Service Payments 20:17 - Negative Consequences of Site of Service Differentials 24:01 - Closing Remarks and Reflections --- RESOURCES CMS.gov website: https://www.cms.gov/ Preliminary Results of the Outpatient Endovascular and Interventional Society National Registry: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1526602820949970