What Would Convince a Lab Leak Skeptic?
What Next3 Mar 2023

What Would Convince a Lab Leak Skeptic?

It was reported this week that the U.S. Department of Energy now believes, “with low confidence,” that the COVID-19 virus came from a lab. But is there enough evidence for the “lab leak theory” to convince those who believe the virus emerged from animals in a wet market?


Guest: Angela Rasmussen, virologist at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization at the University of Saskatchewan in Canada.


Host: Lizzie O’Leary


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Anti-Vaxxers Brought Back the Measles

Anti-Vaxxers Brought Back the Measles

The latest measles outbreak in the Pacific-Northwest is a self-inflicted wound. One that Texans, and Americans alike, should all pay attention to.Guest: Dr. Peter J. Hotez, co-director of the Texas Children's Hospital Center for Vaccine Development.Tell us what you think by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sending an email to whatnext@slate.com. Follow us on Instagram for updates on the show.Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, and Anna Martin. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

1 Feb 201914min

Don't Call Him El Chapo

Don't Call Him El Chapo

Joaquín Guzmán operated in Mexico’s shadows for decades. His trial is shining a spotlight on who the man is and the chaos he sowed on a country . How are Mexicans dealing with the explosive allegations made against former presidents? And what are we all missing by sensationalizing the drug lord's trial?Guest: León Krauze, Columnist for Slate, co-host of Trumpcast, and news anchor for Univision.Tell us what you think by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sending an email to whatnext@slate.com. Follow us on Instagram for updates on the show.Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, and Anna Martin. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

31 Jan 201911min

Media Layoffs Are Trending

Media Layoffs Are Trending

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss a rather terrifying security flaw from Apple, a company that prides itself on keeping information well-protected. A bug was found in the video chat app Facetime that let snoops listen in on someone by calling them on FaceTime, even if the call wasn’t answered. Then, the hosts are joined by Franklin Foer,  a staff writer for the Atlantic, former editor in chief of The New Republic, and author of a book about what he calls “the existential threat of big tech.” They talk to him about the recent wave of layoffs in the media—including big cuts at BuzzFeed, HuffPost, and Gannett newspapers— and how those tie into the dominance of companies like Google and Facebook over the way we get information now. Don’t Close My Tabs:April: Pandora’s New Corporate Parents Gave Millions to Trump, GOPWill: Wired: Is Big Tech Merging with Big Brother? Kinda Looks Like It.Podcast production by Max JacobsYou can get updates about what’s coming up next by following us on Twitter @ifthenpod. You can follow Will @WillOremus and April @Aprilaser. If you have a question or comment, you can email us at ifthen@slate.com.If Then is presented by Slate and Future Tense, a collaboration among Arizona State University, New America, and Slate. Future Tense explores the ways emerging technologies affect society, policy, and culture. To read more, follow us on Twitter and sign up for our weekly newsletter.Listen to If Then via Apple Podcasts, Overcast, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Play. This episode is brought to you by Warby Parker. Try their home try-on program for free today at warbyparker.com/ifthen.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

30 Jan 201932min

Howard Schultz and the Ghost of Ross Perot

Howard Schultz and the Ghost of Ross Perot

Howard Schultz's potential independent presidential candidacy has gotten off to a rough start. Why are Democrats and Republicans alike upset about the Starbucks CEO entering the 2020 fray? And will it even matter?Guest: Steve Kornacki, National Political Correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC.Tell us what you think by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sending an email to whatnext@slate.com. Follow us on Instagram for updates on the show.Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, and Anna Martin Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

30 Jan 201915min

How Big Tech Is Bleeding American Journalism

How Big Tech Is Bleeding American Journalism

More than 1,000 journalists lost their jobs last week. The reason is pretty simple: Big tech is beating digital media to the money. To save journalism, what rules should the public be fighting for?Guest: Will Oremus, Slate’s Senior Technology Writer.Tell us what you think by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sending an email to whatnext@slate.com. Follow us on Instagram for updates on the show.Podcast production by Mary Wilson and Jayson De Leon, with help from Anna Martin. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

29 Jan 201917min

The Gun Rights Case Headed to the Supreme Court

The Gun Rights Case Headed to the Supreme Court

Why it matters that the Supreme Court is taking on a gun rights case now, after keeping its powder dry for years.Guest: Mark Joseph Stern, who covers courts & the law for Slate.Tell us what you think by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sending an email to whatnext@slate.com. Follow us on Instagram for updates on the show.Podcast production by Mary Wilson and Jayson De Leon, with help from Danielle Hewitt.   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

28 Jan 201916min

The Opposition Comes for Venezuela’s Maduro

The Opposition Comes for Venezuela’s Maduro

How Venezuelans reached a breaking point, and how a team of savvy politicians orchestrated the break. No one expected the greatest threat of a proxy war to come out of South America -- right?Guests: Ana Vanessa Herrero, reporter for the New York Times. Josh Keating, senior editor of foreign affairs for Slate.Tell us what you think by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sending an email to whatnext@slate.com. Follow us on Instagram for updates on the show.Podcast production by Mary Wilson and Jayson De Leon.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

25 Jan 201919min

Congress Does Something

Congress Does Something

The Senate is readying a vote on two bills to fund the government. The measures aren’t expected to pass, but they might signal the beginning of the end of the shutdown.Guest: Jim Newell, who covers Congress for Slate. Tell us what you think by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sending an email to whatnext@slate.com. Follow us on Instagram for updates on the show.Podcast production by Mary Wilson and Jayson De Leon, with help from Danielle Hewitt. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

24 Jan 201918min

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