Ep.#78 Special Guest Jim Goodall to Talk About His Time at Area 51, Bob Lazar, & Aviation History Including the Famous Black-Bird!

Today we have special guest Jim Goodall to talk about what it was like being at the nations most secret military base Area 51! We will get into what Jim was worked on while in the Air National Guard with a TOP Secret Clearance & Learn about his trip to SpaceX and other Aviation museums. Jim also talks about how he met Bob Lazar before he worked at S-4 and after Lazar left S-4 He went asking questions about Lazar, only to be told to stop looking!. With that being said, Strap On Those Seat Belts, Were going for a Ride!!

JIM'S BIO: As an 18-year-old Airman Second Class in the Air Force (name of therank was changed for PC reasons). I was sent TDY (Temporary Duty) to Edwards AFB to install and maintain their ground base telemetry system for three Category One testing programs. The first two were public knowledge: the YC-141 Lockheed Starlifter and the North American Aviation XB-70 Valkyrie. The third was a classified program. That program was Kelly Johnson’s ultimate interceptor, the Mach 3+ YF-12A Blackbird. My passion was now cast in stone. On March 10, 1964, at approximately 1515 hrs (3:15 PM), I saw what was to change my life forever. On the XB-70 test pad was what I first thought was the North American Aviation X-15 rocket plane, but the people were way too small. Much to my amazement, I had my first glimpse of Kelly’s incredible Mach 3+ Blackbird, the YF-12A, in full afterburners. I’ve never been the same! In the spring of 1968, via the US Postal Service, I formally asked Lockheed, the United States Air Force, the Department of Defense and the Central Intelligence Agency for unclassified photos of the of the SR- 71 on the ground or in the air. I was willing to pay the published rate for color 8x10s. I was turned down and never received any of the photos I had requested. Had the Air Force, Lockheed, DoD and the CIA honored my photo requests in 1968, I would have been happy to just move along. But, as with all things government, their unofficial “official” policy was to not cooperate; so, I started digging, the more I dug, the more I discovered. The more I discovered the deeper I dug. I would not be where I am today, in the field of spooky programs, if our government had given me what I wanted in 1968. I would have remained happy, and my name would never have been associated with Area 51, the Blackbirds, the F-117 or the Skunk Works. And the late Ben Rich, former President of the Skunk Works, and I would never have been friends.

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