After Baghdadi is before Baghdadi: How the West still has to fight ISIS

After Baghdadi is before Baghdadi: How the West still has to fight ISIS

How will IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s killing impact ISIS as a terror organisation and the situation in Syria? Host Mark Leonard is joined by Anthony Dworkin and Asli Aydıntaşbaş to analyse the current events and political implications for Syria’s neighbouring countries, the US and the EU. As the European Union has failed to come up with a coherent policy on how to handle their citizens who travelled to join ISIS, they argue it would still be best, to bring them home and to try them there. But how could the EU member states go ahead with the process?Further read: "Beyond good and evil: Why Europe should bring ISIS foreign fighters home" by Anthony Dworkin - https://t.co/06xbm6A2Th The podcast was recorded on 30 October 2019.Bookshelf:- "Sweet Caress" by William Boyd- "They will have to die now" by James Verini- "The Topeka School" by Ben Lerner- "Human Compatible" by Stuart Russell

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Crisis and control in Gaza and the West Bank

Crisis and control in Gaza and the West Bank

This week, Mark Leonard is joined by Hugh Lovatt, ECFR policy fellow, and Tahani Mustafa, visiting fellow in ECFR’s Middle East and North Africa programme, to discuss Israel’s military action in Gaza ...

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Tariff tensions: Avoiding an EU-US trade war

Tariff tensions: Avoiding an EU-US trade war

This week, Mark Leonard is joined by Tobias Gehrke, ECFR senior policy fellow, for a 15-minute Emergency Room episode dissecting the collapse of an EU-US trade deal. President Donald Trump’s last-minu...

14 Jul 202514min

Beyond the battlefield: Europe’s long-term strategy for Ukraine

Beyond the battlefield: Europe’s long-term strategy for Ukraine

This week, Mark Leonard is joined by Jana Kobzova, ECFR senior policy fellow, and Camille Grand, ECFR distinguished policy fellow, to discuss ECFR’s new European Security Programme and the war in Ukra...

11 Jul 202526min

Hidden empire: How America wields economic power

Hidden empire: How America wields economic power

This week, Mark Leonard is joined by Henry Farrell, ECFR council member and professor at John Hopkins University, to discuss Henry’s new book “Underground Economy”, co-authored by Abraham Newman. In t...

4 Jul 202534min

Live from Warsaw: Polling European politics under Trump’s shadow

Live from Warsaw: Polling European politics under Trump’s shadow

Recorded live from ECFR’s Annual Council Meeting 2025, this week’s podcast features Mark Leonard in conversation with Ivan Krastev, Chair of the Centre for Liberal Strategies in Sofia and permanent fe...

28 Jun 202529min

NATO summit 2025: How Europe can secure its future

NATO summit 2025: How Europe can secure its future

This week, Mark Leonard is joined by Camille Grand, former NATO assistant secretary general and ECFR distinguished policy fellow, for a 15-minute Emergency Room episode dissecting the high-stakes NATO...

25 Jun 202511min

What to expect from the conflict between Israel and Iran

What to expect from the conflict between Israel and Iran

This week, Mark Leonard is joined by the deputy director of ECFR’s Middle East and North Africa programme, Ellie Geranmayeh, and Eran Etzion, policy planning director for the Israeli foreign ministry ...

19 Jun 202535min

Israel attacks Iran: Europe’s role in stopping a dangerous regional war

Israel attacks Iran: Europe’s role in stopping a dangerous regional war

Mark Leonard is joined by Ellie Geranmayeh, deputy director of ECFR’s Middle East and North Africa programme, for a 15-minute Emergency Room episode diving into Israel’s massive overnight attack on Ir...

13 Jun 202517min

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