472: Avoiding the Pressure Won't Get You Anywhere. W/ Matt Hasby
Jocko Podcast8 Jan 2025

472: Avoiding the Pressure Won't Get You Anywhere. W/ Matt Hasby

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Matt is a retired Navy SEAL, combat leader, and Leadership Instructor at Echelon Front with a distinguished 21-year career. He began at SEAL Team Three and was part of Task Unit Bruiser with Leif Babin and Jocko Willink. Matt's combat and training experiences honed his leadership skills, allowing him to rise through the SEAL ranks and collaborate with various special operations teams. After retiring, he earned an MBA from UCLA's Anderson School of Management and worked as a management consultant, where he applied and validated Echelon Front’s strategies in business.



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34: Leif Babin – Ambushed Cops, Benghazi, Tempers, SEAL Combatives

34: Leif Babin – Ambushed Cops, Benghazi, Tempers, SEAL Combatives

0:00:00 - Opening 0:10:27 - Is Darkness Taking Hold? 0:24:18 - When to fire someone. 0:37:32 - How Leif and Jocko met 0:58:08 - Thoughts on Bengazi 1:04:16 - Best BBQ in Texas? 1:06:52 - Having Hard Conversations 1:11:55 - SEAL Combatives and MMA 1:19:06 - Dealing with Tempers. 1:28:18 - Thoughts on Cops being ambushed. 1:52:20 - Metallica or Pantera? 1:54:05 - Thoughts on the deaths of BUD/s Students 2:07:34 - Dealing w/ rules of engagement. 2:12:36 - How often did you guys get shot in the body armor or helmet? 2:15:38 - Would Leif/Jocko consider politics? 2:19:32 - Muster 2016 Info 2:23:06 - Remembering Marc Lee, Aug 2nd 2:37:30 - Closing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

3 Aug 20162h 50min

33: The Killing Zone (F. Downs), Male Psyche & Fighting, BJJ Frustrations, Talking about Yourself, Fear of Failure

33: The Killing Zone (F. Downs), Male Psyche & Fighting, BJJ Frustrations, Talking about Yourself, Fear of Failure

0:00:00 - Opening 0:0:3:13 - "The Killing Zone", by Frederick Downs - Book review 1:27:48 - Internet / Onnit Stuff  1:41:07 - Is Fighting ability the most overlooked essential stabilizer in the young male psyche? 1:58:01 - Frustrations of beginning Jiu Jitsu 2:11:41 - Checking ego while Talking about yourself in an interview 2:16:02 - Staying humble when you know you have better skills than others. 2:27:15 - When 2 leaders have Extreme Ownership have to go against each other. 2:35:06 - Overcoming Fear of Failure Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

27 Jul 20162h 48min

32: Privileged People, Leading Women Teams, Discipline Equals Financial Freedom, Does Micromanaging Ever Work?

32: Privileged People, Leading Women Teams, Discipline Equals Financial Freedom, Does Micromanaging Ever Work?

0:00:00 - Opening 0:01:04 - Loving and respecting privileged people who have less toughness and adversity in life. 0:09:41 - Thoughts on Enson Inoue BJJ Belt Demotion. 0:33:34 - Dealing with trainees saying they haven't been trained properly. 0:40:35 - Are there differences in leading women teams VS leading men teams? 0:46:15 - Using the "GOOD" philosophy while avoiding Pollyannaism. 1:00:15 - Favorite Podcasts and why. 1:28:01 - Discipline Equals Freedom in regards to financial life. 1:37:45 - Does micromanaging ever work? 1:43:16 - Keeping focus on the "long war."   Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

20 Jul 20161h 52min

31:  Book Review, “Four Hours in My Lai” by Michael Bilton

31: Book Review, “Four Hours in My Lai” by Michael Bilton

0:00:00 - Book Review.  Four Hours in My Lai, by Michael Bilton and Kevin Sim  2:22:22 - Cool Online / Onnit stuff - Onnit.com/Jocko Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

13 Jul 20162h 34min

30: Overwhelmed Countering Mental Shut-Down, Losing Temper with your Wife, Loyalty to Co-workers vs Ambition

30: Overwhelmed Countering Mental Shut-Down, Losing Temper with your Wife, Loyalty to Co-workers vs Ambition

0:00:00 - Opening / Onnit.com/jocko 0:01:41 - The Aide-de-Camp Position, what it entails, and Jocko's experience. 0:17:14 - Martial Arts for a wheelchair user. 0:26:25 - Countering mental shut-down from being overwhelmed. 0:29:09 - Techniques for NOT losing your temper with your Wife. 0:46:51 - Balancing loyalty to co-workers/team-mates and career promotion 0:57:10 - Are there benefits to Team-building exercises and Retreats? 1:08:47 - Things Jocko regrets, would have done differently, or wishes he learned sooner. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

5 Jul 20161h 20min

29: Book Review.  “Platoon Leader: A Memoir of Command in Combat”, James R. McDonough

29: Book Review. “Platoon Leader: A Memoir of Command in Combat”, James R. McDonough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JKwtK8o9jI Book Review: "Platoon Leader: A Memoir of Command in Combat", by James R. McDonough Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

29 Jun 20162h 19min

28:  “Steel My Soldiers’ Hearts, BJJ SOP’s, Going Back to College, Leadership, Who’s Standard to Follow

28: “Steel My Soldiers’ Hearts, BJJ SOP’s, Going Back to College, Leadership, Who’s Standard to Follow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDhikAvewEY&feature=youtu.be 0:00:00 - Opening 0:05:39 - Book Review, "Steel My Soldiers' Hearts", by David Hackworth 1:24:24 - Dope Internet/Onnit Stuff 1:27:26 - Relating SOP's and BJJ Training 1:36:56 - Waiting for input hindering fast decisions. 1:44:22 - Advice for Those Going Back to School 2:06:08 - Peer Leadership with No command structure 2:15:56 - How would Jocko handle WW1 Trenches? 2:20:07 - "Tough" VS "Smart" 2:26:47 - Who's Standard Should you measure Yourself By when GETTING AFTER IT? Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

22 Jun 20162h 37min

27: “How to be Strong, Healthy, and Happy”, “I Remember the Last War”, Bob Hoffman, Being Late, Judo VS BJJ, Family/Priority.

27: “How to be Strong, Healthy, and Happy”, “I Remember the Last War”, Bob Hoffman, Being Late, Judo VS BJJ, Family/Priority.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uFS3J4Hqyo 0:00:00 - Opening 0:04:58 - "I Remember the Last War" 1:16:12 - "How to be Strong Healthy and Happy", Bob Hoffman 1:40:33 - Internet/Onnit/Audible Stuff 1:44:32 - What to do facing "burnout". 1:50:09 - Judo compared to Jiu Jitsu 2:01:34 - Being LATE? 2:09:28 - Wives, Family, Re-prioritizing & balancing responsibilities while in the Military. 2:23:34 - Can you lead those who don't want to be led? 2:29:05 - How physical fitness empowers the mind and will. 2:43:25 - Dealing with the loss of Loved Ones. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

15 Jun 20162h 53min

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