Who Will Mourn DEI?

Who Will Mourn DEI?

The Trump administration’s fight against diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs is underway, and it’s proving to be even broader and further-reaching than anticipated. What’s at stake for these programs—and why are so many Americans glad to see them go?


Guest: Farah Stockman, member of the New York Times Editorial Board, author of American Made: What Happens to People When Work Disappears


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The Surveillance Interstate

The Surveillance Interstate

Tracking a license plate across the country has never been easier, which is good news if your car has been stolen, but in an era of ICE and Border Patrol raids, these warrantless searches feel increas...

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You can have enough ICE recruits or you can have standards for the shape that they’re in, but you can’t have both—this was just one lesson Donald Trump could have learned this week, in between hosting...

21 Nov 20255min

Crypto Keeps Criming

Crypto Keeps Criming

Trump promised to stop the “persecution” of the cryptocurrency industry. He did call off the SEC investigations that began under Biden, and pardoned Binance cofounder and ex-CEO Changpeng Zhao. But is...

21 Nov 202521min

Who Killed the Penny? She Did.

Who Killed the Penny? She Did.

People have been talking about how the penny is more trouble than it’s worth for 50 years—so why drop it now? And—other than having nothing to put in our loafers—will it be missed? Guest: Caity Weaver...

20 Nov 202522min

Sudan on the Brink

Sudan on the Brink

Ongoing civil war in Sudan has left tens of thousands dead, with millions displaced. A country of great natural resources, regional foreign governments have chosen sides—but foreign aid from the US th...

19 Nov 202526min

Have the Epstein Files Broken MAGA?

Have the Epstein Files Broken MAGA?

You can’t really blame Donald Trump for thinking he could just handwave away the Epstein Files. But for the first time in what feels like forever, his base, the GOP, and his own desires don’t quite al...

18 Nov 202527min

The National Guard Is Asking Questions

The National Guard Is Asking Questions

Trump can’t seem to decide if the National Guard is needed in American cities to stop violent crime, or to assist ICE deportations, or something else entirely. And the lack of a clear and present cris...

17 Nov 202524min

How Meta Profits Off Fraud

How Meta Profits Off Fraud

The parent company of Facebook and Instagram, Meta, doesn’t (just) have a scam problem—with 10 percent of its revenue coming from scam ads, and a third of all successful scams in America using a Meta ...

16 Nov 202528min

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