SUX EP 18 - "World Wide Waste" with Gerry McGovern

SUX EP 18 - "World Wide Waste" with Gerry McGovern

This time I had the honor to be joined by Gerry McGovern. Gerry is besides many things the author of the book World Wide Waste and well known for his work regarding digital sustainability and especially digital waste and e-waste. For me this was also really special because I relate to Gerry and his work pretty often in my talks. “Up to 90% of all digital data is not used” is one of the famous quotes from his book World Wide Waste and you probably have heard it somewhere already.

Gerry and me had a really deep conversation about the dark side of tech and we could fill a whole book with great quotable statements from him just in this podcast.

We spoke about the problem of innovation and why AI is a big problem not only from an environmental point of view but on many ends. And we discussed how big tech per se is a problem and how it is acting not for the good of us but only for the good of themselves.

But we also spoke about what we can do, how we need to reconnect to nature and the need to get back to local. And we discussed hope and resilience and which of both is maybe more important.


Connect with our guest or us:


Gerrys Channels:

Gerrys LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerry-mcgovern-07876469/


Web: https://gerrymcgovern.com/


Gerrys Book “World Wide Waste”: https://gerrymcgovern.com/books/world-wide-waste/


Mastodon: @gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green


Our Channels:

Thorsten's LinkedIn

SUX Slack Community

SUX LinkedIn

SUX Website


SUX Branding and Design: Isabel Pettinato

Isabel's LinkedIn


Music: Bavo Lodewyckx

Bavo's Linkedin


Email us at podcast@sustainableuxnetwork.com to share your feedback or suggest future guests.

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