Were the Covid Lockdowns Worth It?
The Daily20 Mar

Were the Covid Lockdowns Worth It?

Five years ago, at the urging of federal officials, much of the United States locked down to stop the spread of Covid. Over time, the action polarized the country and changed the relationship between many Americans and their government.

Michael Barbaro speaks to Stephen Macedo and Frances Lee, two prominent political scientists who dispute the effectiveness of the lockdowns, to find out what they think will be required when the next pandemic strikes.

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Guest: Stephen Macedo and Frances Lee, authors of In Covid’s Wake: How Our Politics Failed Us

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Tuesday, Nov. 21, 2017

Tuesday, Nov. 21, 2017

Capitol Hill, following its own set of rules and shrouded in secrecy, has joined Hollywood, Silicon Valley and other industries under scrutiny for sexual harassment. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, Democrat of New York, talks about being a woman in Congress at this moment. Guests: Katie Rogers, a New York Times reporter based in Washington; Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, Democrat of New York. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

21 Nov 201719min

Monday, Nov. 20, 2017

Monday, Nov. 20, 2017

Republican lawyers and lawmakers are working together to install conservative judges at a rate not seen in decades. The result could be a federal judiciary that is as partisan and polarized as Congress itself. Guest: Charlie Savage, a New York Times reporter based in Washington. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

20 Nov 201716min

Special Episode: The Daily for Kids

Special Episode: The Daily for Kids

Starting next year, girls can decide whether to become a Girl Scout or a Boy Scout. But a handful of girls — kind of secretly — have already made that decision. How one 10-year-old girl got a head start on joining a boys-only club. And why her twin sister decided to stay with the girls. Guests: Elsa Moock, who joined the Boy Scouts last year; her twin sister Clio; their father Alastair; and Dylan Bates and Harry Krygowski, two boys in Elsa's troop. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

19 Nov 201723min

Friday, Nov. 17, 2017

Friday, Nov. 17, 2017

Basim Razzo lost his family and his home in an airstrike by the American-led coalition fighting the Islamic State. Video of the strike shows a target hit with military precision. In Part 2 of our look at civilian casualties in Iraq, Mr. Razzo sets out to learn why his home was targeted. Guests: Basim Razzo; Azmat Khan, an investigative reporter who has been looking into civilian deaths in the fight against ISIS. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

17 Nov 201728min

Thursday, Nov. 16, 2017

Thursday, Nov. 16, 2017

The American-led battle against the Islamic State has been hailed as the most precise air campaign in history. But its airstrikes have killed far more Iraqi civilians than anyone has acknowledged. The survivors of those strikes have been left wondering why their families were targeted. Guests: Basim Razzo, who survived an airstrike on his home in Mosul, Iraq; Azmat Khan, an investigative reporter who has been looking into civilian deaths in the fight against ISIS. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

16 Nov 201721min

Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2017

Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2017

In a marathon session before Congress, Attorney General Jeff Sessions denied lying about Russian contacts in earlier testimony and sidestepped questions about feeling pressure from President Trump to investigate Hillary Clinton and Uranium One. Guests: Matt Apuzzo, who covers the Justice Department for The New York Times; Michael S. Schmidt, who covers national security. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. [AUDIO PLAYER DESCRIPTION] Attorney General Jeff Sessions denied lying to Congress about Russian contacts and sidestepped questions about feeling pressure to investigate Hillary Clinton. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

15 Nov 201721min

Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2017

Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2017

A fifth woman has come forward to accuse Roy S. Moore, the Republican Senate candidate in Alabama, of sexually assaulting her when she was a teenager. Mr. Moore has doubled down on claims of a Democratic conspiracy, while Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, has said, “I believe the women.” And we look at how YouTube is being used to game the news. Guests: Sheryl Gay Stolberg, congressional correspondent for The New York Times; Kevin Roose, who writes about technology. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

14 Nov 201724min

Monday, Nov. 13, 2017

Monday, Nov. 13, 2017

The House speaker, Paul D. Ryan, says the Republican tax plan would help the middle class. But that assumes that savings for the wealthy would trickle down the economic pyramid. Guest: Peter S. Goodman, an economics correspondent for The Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

13 Nov 201719min

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