159. Three's A Crowd: Kahler Family Massacre

On September 20th, 2014, dog walker Barbara Denham entered the walled graveyard of St. Margaret of Antioch church in Barking, London. She saw a young man sitting up against the cemetery wall amidst the ruins of the old abbey. As Ms. Denham approached, the young man never reacted or indicated that he heard her or the collie. Hesitantly, she walked over and found that twenty-one-year-old Daniel Whitworth was dead. Ms. Denham immediately phoned the police saying, “I was the same woman that found the other body a few weeks ago. I found another young boy.”Join Jen and Cam as they talk about how the murderous and lascivious behavior of Stephen Port would go unchecked by authorities. The investigation has been described as "One of the most widespread institutional failures in modern history" In fact, had it not been for the sisters of his last victim, Jack Taylor, he would have likely continued killing.Thanks to the OTCP teamListener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettesewetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenSources:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3282343/Moment-chef-accused-poisoning-killing-four-gay-men-met-online-appeared-television-alongside-Celebrity-Masterchef-contestants.html?fbclid=IwAR1gy9eEZJSr0MO-gPbH_MedUtt18Vjz8Xnh3WZoT-88jdNeRlNXvQMTZTohttps://thetalentzone.co.uk/musictv/16206/food-ingredients-at-west-ham-bus-garage-proved-a-test-for-the-contestants-on-celebrity-masterchef-2014/?fbclid=IwAR04xLHQ0ZN3h6wWu8H-p93byzavFjJevkznNj2eW0cj6PN5fhbBfMjYsXEhttps://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2014/06/west-ham-bus-garage.html?fbclid=IwAR0ekTEgZJlOsdlsmVfChe4rG7BmFxFaAqrvycmu2YuFGP7SaIfh-VjwysYhttps://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/gb/london/EGLC/date/2014-6-19https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3937820/Family-Stephen-Port-s-final-victim-slam-police-blunders.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMPAKrwHmSghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkohABWOrREhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Porthttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-61909143https://news.sky.com/story/stephen-port-families-of-men-murdered-by-grindr-killer-demand-met-police-put-things-right-12639418 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

10 Aug 202254min

Imagine you are a probation officer and you get a phone call that one of your offenders hasn’t checked in with you as of late. Since he is an elderly man in his late 70s, you hope he is ok. It is April 13, 2010, an officer goes to the home to check on him. The officer goes into the home and talks to the man. He then walks about the house to get a look around which is standard. It all looks ok. Located in the back of the home, the officer discovers a room. This room has a giant padlock on the door from the outside. Immediately sensing something is not right, he demands to get into each of the rooms. What authorities would find in the house is what nightmares are made of. It is a scene straight out of one of those haunted houses kids visit on Halloween night, but this was no haunted house, and no one --children or adults --should have to see what was inside. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast’ entitled ‘Joseph Naso: His List of Ten.’Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS………………………..Music and EP is by @wetalkofdreams………………….Sources:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/joseph-naso-suspected-serial-killer-rape-diary-authorities-article-1.1005103https://web.archive.org/web/20140905015545/http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/joseph-naso/crazy-joe.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20140403050028/http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/joseph-naso/an-odd-history.htmlhttp://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Joseph-Naso-accused-in-Dylan-fan-s-disappearance-2492547.phphttps://web.archive.org/web/20141026172333/http://www.marinij.com/crimebeat/ci_23966535/marin-prosecutors-link-killer-naso-tiburon-victim-1981https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrEtwrGz.pi21oJ9xdXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzMEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1659584582/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.crimetraveller.org%2f2017%2f06%2flist-of-10-serial-killer-joseph-naso%2f/RK=2/RS=XfBXEVjDIuf68PkK8TAEvkIEGBQ-https://www.amazon.com/LIST-10-Serial-Killer-Homicide/dp/1987902327https://abc7news.com/tag/joseph-naso/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2394413/Joseph-Naso-trial-Sick-diary-entries-serial-killer-rapist-drugged-photographed-victims-read-court.htmlhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/rape-diary-details-revealed-in-case-of-joseph-naso-alleged-calif-serial-killer/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

3 Aug 202258min

****Content Warning****Cannock Chase is 26 square miles of deciduous and coniferous woodland, open heathland, and small lakes in the West Midlands of England. It's a popular place to go hiking and mountain biking. As beautiful as Cannock Chase is, it has a bit of a dark past.In the 1960s, children in the area were abducted, assaulted, and murdered; their bodies were discovered later in the dense foliage of Cannock Chase. A human monster was on the loose.Join Cam and Jen as we discuss The Cannock Chase Murders.Thanks to the OTCP teamListener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettesewetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenSources:https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/03/15/child-murderer-raymond-morris-tried-to-kill-me/https://www.thefreelibrary.com/I+was+abducted%2C+strangled+and+sexually+assaulted+by+Cannock+Chase...-a069171177https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Fury-Cannock-Chase-Murders/dp/B085KKM46Bhttps://www.amazon.com/Cannock-Chase-Murders-Pat-Molloy/dp/0340586206https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/03/13/life-meant-life-for-wicked-killer-raymond-morris/https://scepticpeg.wordpress.com/2017/02/12/william-ian-copeland-the-murder-of-jane-elizabeth-taylor/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannock_Chase_murders#:~:text=18%20February%201969.-,Conviction,and%20murder%20of%20Christine%20Darby.https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-26557796https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/cannock-chase-murdershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannock_Chasehttps://www.britannica.com/place/Cannock-Chasehttps://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/29/mystery-black-eyed-child-sightings-cannock-chase-_n_5898988.htmlhttps://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/morris-raymond-leslie.htmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walsallhttps://www.ovationtv.com/watch/playlist/JzKtxvf3/the-cannock-chase-murders/https://www.google.com/maps/place/Walsall,+UK/@52.5946044,-1.9636683,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x487098817d6d754f:0x66571b177589404d!8m2!3d52.586214!4d-1.982919 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

27 Jul 20221h

He seemed like the perfect man, at first. He wined and dined that special one who caught his eye, at the beginning. He would sweep them off their feet and marry them, quickly. He was after more than marriage, in fact, marriage was just a way to get what he was after. What he was after would cost more than one woman her life. After all, tragic accidents happen but when these tragic accidents happen with the same person at the center of incidents, you have to take a closer look. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of “Our True Crime Podcast’ entitled Deadly Getaways: Randy Roth.Listener Discretion is by the smooth voice at the top of the show, Edward October @octoberpodVHS All our original music is by the talented Nico @wetalkofdreams We liked him so much, we made him our EP.Sources:Fatal Charm by Carlton SmithA Rose for Her Grave by Ann Rulehttps://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awrhdo39DNdihWkCHApXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzcEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1658289534/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.murderpedia.org%2fmale.R%2fimages%2froth-randy%2frandy-roth-info.pdf/RK=2/RS=kwiIg4HuR9m5Tr3Qdd..tkZbR1M-https://6park.news/northdakota/where-is-randy-roth-now-to-update.htmlhttps://ourcommunitynow.com/lifestyle/cynthia-roth-murder-where-is-randy-roth-nowhttps://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/wash-charmer-murders-wife-insurance-money-1991-article-1.3688774https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/state/washington/article243803087.htmlhttp://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920313&slug=1480685http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920418&slug=1487092http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920410&slug=1485621http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920414&slug=1486330http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920425&slug=1488350http://www.doc.wa.gov/offenderinfo/default.aspxhttps://www.thenewstribune.com/news/state/washington/article243803087.htmlhttps://murderpedia.org/male.R/r/roth-randy.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 Jul 202245min

On an unseasonably warm day in August of 1973, while a crowd of around 13,000 fans watched the North Adelaide football team play the Norwood Red Legs at the Adelaide Oval, 11-year-old Joanne Ratcliffe assisted 4-year-old Kirste Gordon to the bathroom. The girls never returned to their seats.Although there were many witnesses, the girls have never been found. Their disappearance is one of South Australia's best-known crimes. Join Jen & Cam ass the discuss the case and possible suspects in "Abduction at the Adelaide Oval: Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon" *** Correction!! Jen got one of the suspects' names backward. It should be Arthur Stanley Hart, not Stanley Arthur Hart A reward of up to $1,000,000 AUD remains on offer to anyone who either provides information leading to the recovery of their remains or information leading to a conviction in the case.Anyone with information is asked to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or at www.crimestopperssa.com.auPromo from our friend Paige from Reverie True Crime Podcast. Make sure to subscribe!Thanks to the OTCP teamListener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettesewetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenSources:https://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/575dfsau.htmlhttps://crimestopperssa.com.au/case/joanne-ratcliffe/https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/q9sp8f/the_disappearance_of_joanne_ratcliffe_and_kirste/https://www.newspapers.com/image/122624709/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon%20Joanne%20Ratcliffe&match=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf3_U0MLs9Ahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/122311582/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/125772014/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/122671976/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon%20Joanne%20Ratcliffe&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/121956331/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon%20Joanne%20Ratcliffe&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/123019736/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon%20Joanne%20Ratcliffe&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/120770130https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Adelaide_Football_Clubhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide_Oval Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

13 Jul 202244min

In the summer of 1985, the folks in the small town of Gillespie, Illinois were shaken to their core when 16-year-old Bridget Drobney was found brutally murdered.Three men were arrested and one, Robert Turner was sentenced to death. In January of 2003, Governor Ryan commuted all 167 of Illinois’ death row inmates to life sentences. One of those was obviously, Robert Turner. Years later, In March of 2011, Governor Pat Quinn would abolish the death penalty in the state of Illinois altogether. In June of 2022, Turner was able to get a clemency hearing with the help of the Illinois Prison Project. The Illinois Prison Project fights for people serving “unjust, unnecessary and excessive” sentences in Illinois. If you visit their website, it says in big letters they are fighting a “system that treats people as disposable.” And while there are certainly many innocent people serving sentences in Illinois that are serving especially excessive sentences, the Drobney family feels that Robert Turner is not one of them.Please listen to Jen & Cam as they talk about Bridget Drobney's murder and if you are like us and the Drobney family and feel that Robert Turner does not deserve clemency,please make your voice heard.Contact Jennifer Soble, Executive Director of Prison Release Board. Her email is PRB.Clemency@Illinois.Gov The family asks that you state that it is regarding Robert Turner IDOC No N66184.Special thanks to Paula Lucca for talking with us about Bridget.Thanks to the OTCP teamListener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettesewetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Rett MacPhersonSources:https://www.thetelegraph.com/news/article/Moreth-seeks-death-penalty-for-Turner-in-1989-12649227.phphttps://www.newspapers.com/image/388401459https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1985-07-20-8502170328-story.htmlhttps://apnews.com/article/f6356cf8684ba9bcba0391753f1f045bhttps://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/04/10/Accused-killer-says-it-was-just-a-joke/5931513493200/https://www.newspapers.com/image/388339586/?terms=Bridget%20Drobney&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/388339586/?terms=Bridget%20Drobney&match=1https://www.leagle.com/decision/1989668128ill2d5401642?fbclid=IwAR1P1--T0vtd-v_yjxhJr7COcEKYK40oTJ_BL9XAttATBySn8UA72Y6x_5chttps://www.newspapers.com/image/388358006/?terms=Bridget%20Drobney&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/388544507/?terms=Bridget%20Drobney&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

29 Jun 202242min

The Mafia, the Mob, the family. It has many names but there is only one thing this organization is concerned about: money. This long-standing group has members operating from the streets hustling all the way up to corrupt government officials. In the neighborhoods they run, they are feared by some and adored by others. This family follows a set of rules demanding loyalty to each other above all else, including, well, your own family. To break these laws not only goes against what they stand for but it very well may cost a life or two. Afterall, someone must pay.Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Mafia Murder Mystery: Johnny Boy D’Amato.’Our listener discretion is by the amazing Edward October @octoberpodVHSOur multi-talented editor does all our music too @wetalkofdreams Sources:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mob-boss-hit-over-gay-encounters/https://nypost.com/2003/05/01/mobster-sleeps-with-the-swishes/https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/mafia-family-tree.pdf/viewhttps://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/9059166https://www.thefreelibrary.com/WHY+THE+GAYFATHER+HAD+TO+BE+WHACKED%3B+Hitman+killed+homosexual+Mafia...-a0101005486https://www.legendsofamerica.com/la-cosa-nostra/https://www.pinterest.com/pin/63965257184500635/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/may/02/usa.garyyoungehttps://www.cosanostranews.com/2012/05/why-decavalcantes-hit-acting-boss.htmlhttps://www.britannica.com/topic/Five-Familieshttps://www.biography.com/news/five-families-nyc-mafiahttps://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/mafia-family-tree.pdfhttp://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/p/current-leadership-of-five-families.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbjfoJSMXOwhttps://torontosun.com/news/world/meet-the-real-jersey-mob-decavalcantes-ruled-the-garden-statehttps://nypost.com/2021/09/25/the-sopranos-was-inspired-by-this-newark-mob-family/https://nypost.com/2021/07/17/bringing-down-the-sopranos-for-the-fbi-destroyed-my-life/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

22 Jun 202244min

Friday, March 25th, 1988, Lisa got in her Honda and headed north. She would take Interstate 25 to Casper, Wyoming, and from there she would take the mostly two-lane US-20/26 to Greybull, where she would then finish the trip at her boyfriend's house in Cody, Wyoming, on US14. She’d planned to stay the night there and make the remaining hour-and-a-half trek to Billings the next morning with her boyfriend in tow. When Lisa Marie didn’t arrive at Ed's house in Cody, as planned, he was immediately worried and called her parents. Lisa was nowhere to be found. She had vanished somewhere on her 600-mile journey home.Lisa's case would go cold for 14 years until DNA would link authorities to her killer.Join Cam and Jen as they discuss 'Long Road To Justice: Lisa Kimmell'.Thank you to the folks who help make the OTCP greatListener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettesewetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenSources:The Murder of Lil Miss: A Mother's Brutal 16-Year Fight for Justiceby Sheila Kimmell https://www.amazon.com/Murder-Lil-Miss-Mothers-16-Year/dp/0976747006/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1X49XOXGA1264&keywords=sheila+kimmell&qid=1655250436&sprefix=sheila+kimmell%2Caps%2C81&sr=8-1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIHEI1el6ssn Unsolved Mysteries Season 1 Episode 12https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5DV-DKhqhA CrimeVaulthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW0CGco4gc TiffanyKristinaXOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqtvdTjKLG8 Scary Mysterieshttps://www.strangeoutdoors.com/mysterious-stories-blog/tag/the+Great+Basin+Serial+Killerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lil%27_Miss_murder https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8701970/lisa-marie-kimmellhttps://oilcity.news/crime/2022/03/25/convicted-murderer-dale-wayne-eaton-re-sentenced-30-years-after-disappearance-of-lisa-marie-kimmel/https://www.ranker.com/list/lisa-marie-kimmell-facts/rachel-souerbryhttps://www.wyomingpublicmedia.org/news/2013-03-04/authorities-to-investigate-new-leads-in-the-1997-disappearance-of-amy-wroe-bechtel Billings Gazette: https://www.newspapers.com/image/415632475/?terms=Lisa%20Marie%20Kimmell&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

15 Jun 20221h 6min