The Upside Of Tariffs
What Next7 Apr 2025

The Upside Of Tariffs

Maybe Trump doesn’t care if the economy tanks—maybe he believes he can play it all to his advantage. And maybe, through a lot of pain, this is the only way America’s going to learn its lesson.


Guest: Jonathan Last, editor of The Bulwark


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Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, and Rob Gunther.

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