Mamamia Out Loud26 Apr 2025

SUNDAY SPECIAL: Mia, Holly & The Attack On Teenage Girls

Today's Sunday Special is one we think you're going to love.

Mia Freedman has been in countless conversations with Holly Wainwright—on mics, off mics, in meetings, in texts. But she’s never been on MID. Until now.

In this episode, Holly kicks off Season Five with someone who knows her well, and who’s read something very personal—her brand new book, He Would Never.

It’s a story about the limits and power of female friendships, narcissistic love, and the tricky transitions from girlhood to teenagehood. And Mia had thoughts. Lots of them. For one - the teenage girls we were in the 90s are very different than the teenage girls of today.

This episode is about writing and ambition. Confidence and self-doubt. Teenage daughters and their teenage selves. It’s a conversation between two women the same age, but at different parenting stages.

At the end of this episode, Holly has a very special gift for you - so stick around, you don't want to miss it.

You can pre order Holly's book He Would Never here. And it's available in all good book stores from April 29th

THE END BITS:

Share your feedback! Send us a voice message or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au

Mamamia's new podcast BIZ is rewriting the rules of work with no generic advice - just real strategies from women who've actually been there. Listen here.

CREDITS:

Host: Holly Wainwright

Guest: Mia Freedman

Executive Producer: Naima Brown

Senior Producer: Grace Rouvray

Producer: Tahli Blackman

Audio Producer: Jacob Round

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Denne episoden er hentet fra en åpen RSS-feed og er ikke publisert av Podme. Den kan derfor inneholde annonser.

Episoder(1540)

FREE SUBS TASTER: ‘Wait. Is this book about me?’

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright & Emily Vernem on our subscriber-only episode. You can listen to the full conversation here: ‘Wait. Is this book about me?’ Usher's...

29 Jul 2min

The Meghan Masterchef Theory & A Very Public Family Performance Review

A theory about why Meghan, Duchess of Harry, went on Masterchef Australia last night. The well-worn strategy behind Pauline Hanson’s family violence comments. The Out Loud hosts have handpicked their...

27 Jul 44min

The Podcast Seat We’re All Fighting For

When Protein-maxxing meets Queue Culture: Someone decided frozen yoghurt is the new juice and now there are lines around the block. Put your phone down and sit on a Scrolly Chair. How A-listers decide...

24 Jul 39min

Barnaby’s 'Imaginary' Dog & You Can't Get Into This Club

“Sit down!” Barnaby Joyce’s pet explosion and the revenge of Pistol and Boo. A woman spent weeks trying to party at the world’s coolest club, until she took one thing off to finally get inside. No, n...

22 Jul 1h 5min

FREE SUBS TASTER: The Cool Girls Are Wearing 'Fecal Matter'

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright & Emily Vernem on our subscriber-only episode. You can listen to the full conversation here: The Cool Girls Are Wearing 'Fecal Matt...

22 Jul 2min

Posh Wasn't At Sporty's Wedding & Non-Parents Need Holidays Too

A big celebrity wedding happened on Saturday and pictures are already in Vogue. Taylor, be more Sporty. Why the World Cup Final half-time show had some questioning their meds. Dr Pimple Popper has 30m...

20 Jul 41min

You’re ‘Too Old’ For A Present & We Got A Cheerleader In Trouble

An Aussie cheerleader got in a lot of trouble. And maybe we had a little something to do with it… Should you be banned from having a gift registry if you’re just… too old? The Out Loud hosts have han...

17 Jul 38min

Gym Goblins, Goldilocks Boobs & Inside The Beckham Box

Australia has lost four women and girls this week, allegedly at the hands of men. The actions of one judge have given us a tiny glimmer of hope. Unbothered Lady Beckham has become a meme for not cheer...

15 Jul 44min