Nailing It: Interview with Dr. Nicole Massie Martin
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Nailing It: Interview with Dr. Nicole Massie Martin

Today we interview Dr. Nicole Massie Martin about her new book Nailing It: Why Successful Leadership Demands Suffering and Surrender.


Reverend Doctor Nicole Massie Martin is the Founder and Executive Director of Soulfire International Ministries. She is currently serving as the Chief Operating Officer at Christianity Today.

Dr. Martin is the author of numerous articles including three books - Nailing It: Why Successful Leadership Demands Suffering and Surrender, Made to Lead: Empowering Women for Ministry and Leaning In, Letting Go: A Lenten Devotional.Dr. Martin is a graduate of Vanderbilt University, Princeton Theological Seminary, and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. She is married to her best friend, Dr. Mark Martin, and they have two amazing daughters.


Nailing Outdated Leadership Practices to the Cross

Traditional leadership teachings and styles haven't changed much in years. But the world is changing and so are Christian leaders―women need room for their natural gifts to shine and people of color needed space to elevate the values they bring into their roles. Even seasoned leaders are growing weary of the status quo, craving innovative ways to lean into new ways of thinking for the good of their organizations and the emerging generations they serve.

In this transformative resource for leaders of all ages, Nicole Massie Martin inspires us to crucify our ministry idols and nail our outdated leadership practices to the cross. Sharing leadership principles and case studies wrapped in biblical precepts and pastoral wisdom, she leads us through seven areas of traditional leadership that need to be reframed:

  • Power
  • Ego
  • Speed
  • Performance
  • Perfection
  • Loyalty
  • Scale

Get ready to take the leap of faith into new leadership realities, and discover how crucified living can lead you to nail it.


Buy the book: https://a.co/d/f0p0SvG

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