Mamamia Out Loud30 Apr 2025

Meghan's Bedtime Routine Is A Lot

Michelle Obama has spoken—and she’s not here to please everyone. The former First Lady revealed what it really took to skip Donald Trump’s inauguration, and why sometimes, disappointing people is exactly the right move. Mia, Jessie and Holly explore Michelle's decision and the role of women as 'shock absorbers'.

Also, can kids read minds? The hit podcast The Telepathy Tapes thinks so. But the science behind it is looking more complicated. We discuss.

Plus, Meghan Markle has shared a surprising part of her bedtime routine—except it’s not for her, won’t be used for years (if ever), and contains a whole lot of admin.

And Gwyneth Paltrow is back in the headlines with a twist no one saw coming: she’s eating carbs again. But do we really need to know every time a celebrity changes their lunch order? Yep, our hosts have thoughts on this...

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