How Apple lost control of the App Store

How Apple lost control of the App Store

Everywhere you look, antitrust fights have the potential to reshape the tech industry. Nilay, David, and The Verge's Jake Kastrenakes start by digging into the latest ruling in the Apple / Epic trial, in which a furious judge rips open the App Store in a way Apple likely never saw coming. The way we pay for apps is about to change, and fast. After that, it's time for an update on the Google and Meta trials, as Google tries to preserve its search empire and Meta tries to make the case that basically every company on the web is its vicious competitor. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for another installment of Brendan Carr is a Dummy, plus some notes on this week's Worldcoin launch and the strange new Meta AI app. Also: party speakers. Always party speakers. Further reading: A judge just blew up Apple’s control of the App Store ‘Cook chose poorly’: how Apple blew up its control over the App Store The future of the App Store depends on the difference between a ‘button’ and an ‘external link’ Apple must allow other forms of in-app purchase, rules judge in Epic v. Apple Apple exec ‘outright lied’ during Epic trial Apple confirms it will appeal the App Store order. Epic says Fortnite is coming back to iOS in the US Sundar Pichai says the DOJ’s antitrust plan could kill Google Search Google confirms it’s close to getting Gemini support on iPhones The TikTok ban is back in court — in Meta’s antitrust trial TikTok’s head of operations takes the stand. Reels isn’t Instagram’s ‘core’ experience. TikTok doesn’t compete with Meta for ‘personal social networking.’ TikTok’s legal entanglements collide. The TikTok ban makes another cameo. TikTok’s friends tab is not exactly a hit. TikTok and Reels are ‘indistinguishable.’ Are YouTube and Instagram the top competitors for TikTok? TikTok predicted Instagram would redesign its app to focus on Reels. Meta prepared for a ‘flood in traffic’ ahead of the TikTok ban. Facebook execs worried Google would buy WhatsApp and make it ‘a cross-platform iMessage.’ Facebook worried most about Google or Apple buying WhatsApp. Google had a ‘long shot’ chance of becoming competitive in social with WhatsApp. Facebook exec worried about losing the business to mobile messaging apps. ‘I was really worried that this could become the end.’ ‘This shit is getting scary.’ WhatsApp showed ‘absolutely no signs of morphing’ into a social app. Facebook floated starting from scratch on messaging. Facebook didn’t know how it would make money from WhatsApp. Facebook didn’t fear WhatsApp becoming a social competitor. Meta releases AI app to compete with ChatGPT Brendan Carr congratulates himself Brendan Carr’s FCC is an anti-consumer, rights-trampling harassment machine Brendan Carr’s Bizarro World FCC Sam Altman-backed Worldcoin cryptocurrency launches in the US Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Why everyone hates Big Tech with Matt Yglesias of The Weeds

Why everyone hates Big Tech with Matt Yglesias of The Weeds

Vox Senior Correspondent and host of The Weeds Matt Yglesias joins Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel in this special crossover episode to explain what Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which allows platforms to circumnavigate liability for user content, really means. They also discuss Elizabeth Warren’s proposal to break up big tech platforms, and how it may or may not fix anything. Subscribe to The Weeds for free here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

22 Jul 201958min

Big tech at Capitol Hill, Elon Musk's brain machine interface, and Macbook 2019 reviews

Big tech at Capitol Hill, Elon Musk's brain machine interface, and Macbook 2019 reviews

Nilay Patel invites a cavalry of experts from The Verge (Makena Kelly, Adi Robertson, Liz Lopatto, Dieter Bohn, and Paul Miller) to discuss the Big Tech hearings that took over Capitol Hill, Elon Musk's Neuralink brain machine interface, and the new Macbook reviews.  Stories this week: Facebook reportedly reaches $5 billion settlement with the Federal …Facebook tells Congress how it thinks Libra should be regulatedHouse Democrats are considering a bill to ban Facebook from the …Senators aren’t sold on Facebook’s Libra projectEU opens Amazon antitrust investigationThe unpredictable legal implications of Trump’s Twitter-blocking defeatElon Musk unveils Neuralink's plans for brain-reading 'threads'Boston Dynamics' robots are preparing to leave the lab — is the world ready? Apple is silently updating Macs again to remove insecure ... Apple MacBook Air (2019) review: the new normalApple MacBook Pro 13 2019 Two USB ports review: considered ... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

19 Jul 20191h 33min

Everything is too hard to use, with Asurion CEO Tony Detter

Everything is too hard to use, with Asurion CEO Tony Detter

Everything is too complicated. Asurion CEO Tony Detter joins Verge editor-in-chief, Nilay Patel to discuss simplifying our experience with tech products, the problems with closed eco-systems and why an insurance company like Asurion got involved with tech support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

16 Jul 201942min

Nintendo announces Switch Lite, Apple updates Macbooks, and a wild email from Foxconn

Nintendo announces Switch Lite, Apple updates Macbooks, and a wild email from Foxconn

Nintendo announced a new Switch! Nilay, Dieter, and Paul discuss what's different with the new model and what's being updated with the original one. But first, continuing coverage of Foxconn's factory in Wisconsin — this time with a cryptic email.Next: new Macbooks! Kind of. Apple updated the Macbook Pro and Air and got rid of the 12-inch Macbook and its butterfly keyboard for future models. There's a whole lot more like a Zoom security flaw, a new streaming service, and of course some FCC talk.  🎶This week's theme song 🎶Foxconn will only create 1,500 jobs, says Wisconsin governorNintendo Switch Lite is a smaller, cheaper Switch built exclusively for handheld playNintendo is updating the original Switch with a new CPU and storageApple is reportedly giving up on its controversial MacBook keyboard …Apple discontinues 12-inch MacBookApple is silently removing Zoom’s web server software from MacsApple Watch eavesdropping vulnerability forces Apple to disable Walkie-TalkieI’m Jad Abumrad, and This Is How I WorkA small notebook for a system administrator WarnerMedia confirms its Netflix rival will be called HBO MaxAT&T says it will automatically block robocalls ‘in the coming months Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

12 Jul 20191h 24min

Net neutrality was repealed a year ago. Gigi Sohn explains what’s happened since

Net neutrality was repealed a year ago. Gigi Sohn explains what’s happened since

It's been a year since net neutrality was repealed. Gigi Sohn, a distinguished fellow at Georgetown Law's Institute for Technology Law and Policy, chats with Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel about what's happened since by explaining the ripple effect of harmful policy decisions and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

9 Jul 201943min

Mourning a robot with Ashley Carman and Kaitlyn Tiffany of 'Why'd You Push That Button?'

Mourning a robot with Ashley Carman and Kaitlyn Tiffany of 'Why'd You Push That Button?'

What happens when your robot friend dies? Ashley Carman and Kaitlyn Tiffany of Why'd You Push That Button? explore the grieving community surrounding the short-lived social robot Jibo. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

5 Jul 201935min

Why big companies will never get content management right, with UCLA’s Sarah T Roberts

Why big companies will never get content management right, with UCLA’s Sarah T Roberts

Behind the screen: content moderation in the shadows of social media author Sarah T Roberts joins Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel to discuss the business and dark side of content moderation while pondering future solutions.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2 Jul 201939min

Jony Ive leaving Apple, iPadOS public beta, and Bill Gates’ greatest mistake

Jony Ive leaving Apple, iPadOS public beta, and Bill Gates’ greatest mistake

Public betas for iPadOS, iOS 13, and macOS Catalina are available now so Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, and Paul Miller discuss the updates from using the software themselves. Also, It was announced during this recording that Apple’s chief design officer Jony Ive will depart the company later this year — the crew reacts. Other topics this week include Bill Gates discussing Microsoft losing to Android, a new Raspberry Pi, and updates on Foxconn's factory in Wisconsin.  Stories discussed this week: Jony Ive leaving Apple after nearly 30 years to start new design firmiPadOS public beta preview: worthy of the new nameiOS 13 hands-on: dark mode, Apple Maps, Reminders, and moreiOS 13’s best upgrade is in your car macOS Catalina first look: goodbye, iTunes; hello, iPad apps on Mac$35 Raspberry Pi 4 announced with 4K support and up to 4GB of RAMJony Ive leaving Apple after nearly 30 years to start new design firmBill Gates says his ‘greatest mistake ever’ was Microsoft losing to AndroidOne year after Trump's Foxconn groundbreaking, there is almost nothing to show for it Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

28 Jun 20191h 19min

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