The Ultimate Coinbase Debate: Can It Survive? | Jeff Dorman
Empire5 Mai 2025

The Ultimate Coinbase Debate: Can It Survive? | Jeff Dorman

Gm! This week we're joined by Jeff Dorman to discuss his recent tweet on the bear case for Coinbase. We deep dive into the Coinbase business model, the rise of DEXs (Hyperliquid), who is best positioned to win the exchange wars, the opportunity for DeFi & more. Enjoy! -- Start your day with crypto news, analysis and data from Katherine Ross. Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/empire?utm_source=podcasts -- Follow Jeff: https://x.com/jdorman81 Follow Santi: https://x.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Join the Empire Telegram: https://t.me/+CaCYvTOB4Eg1OWJh -- Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Grab your tickets to Permissionless IV. Use code EMPIRE10 for 10% off: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iv -- Petra Earn was designed to make DeFi more accessible for everyone—from seasoned pros to DeFi beginners. Manage your balance, claim rewards and deposit directly from the app. By supplying USDT to Aries lending pools, users have the potential to earn a higher yield compared to some traditional methods. Not financial advice. Participating in Defi carries risks. To learn more visit https://petra.app/earn -- Zenrock is a permissionless, decentralized custody network backed by 1RoundTable Partners, 10T, Maven11, and Spartan. Live on Jupiter, $ROCK is the native token for transactions within the Zenrock ecosystem and secures Zenrock’s decentralized custody network. The first application launching on Zenrock is zenBTC – yield-bearing Bitcoin on Solana. zenBTC will be live in April 2025. -- Crypto never sleeps. So we built an Al analyst that never blinks. Meet Focal by FalconX: a GenAI insights engine built for institutional crypto. Already used by 80+ funds managing $10B+ in AUM. 🔹 Screen, chart, and analyze 1300+ tokens 🔹 Summarize market-moving news instantly 🔹 Integrates data from CoinGecko, Kaito, Token Terminal, Tokenomist, The Tie Get started today: https://askfocal.com -- Token.com is a social-first crypto platform transforming how people discover and trade through crypto content. The revolutionary in-feed trading turns complex crypto into intuitive investments, while content creators earn from every trade and projects amplify their stories through native tokens - creating a new era of social media-powered crypto discovery. Just scroll to watch and tap to invest. Download the app! -- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (03:06) Do Fundamentals Matter In Crypto? (08:58) Ripple's Breakthrough Moment (11:38) Ads (Aptos, Zenrock) (12:58) The Coinbase Business Model (20:59) Are Coinbase Users Sticky? (25:29) The Rise Of DEXs (31:41) Ads (Aptos, Zenrock) (33:01) Is There A Bull Case For Coinbase? (37:55) Tokenization (43:37) Ads (Falcon x, Token.com) (45:05) The Opportunity For DeFi (50:32) Value Accrual (57:07) How To Bring Assets Onchain (01:10:09) Should Securities Laws Be Updated? -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

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Will Companies Survive the Funding Drought? | Roundup

Will Companies Survive the Funding Drought? | Roundup

In today’s episode of Empire, we discuss how crypto startups are running out of cash. Will more companies quietly shut down, and how will the survivors navigate the market? One group of people can strongly impact this outcome: Crypto VCs. We explore what decisions these VCs are facing, if they'll be able to raise funds from LPs, their hardest challenges and more! This is a short episode that's packed with insights. - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:57) Nike x Tiffany collab (10:38) Celsius lacks leadership (12:45) Private companies will quietly shut down (15:53) How VCs operate (22:12) Blockworks Research Ad (27:45) Challenges of running a crypto VC fund (32:55) Fundraising terms matter (34:23) Lessons learned from past cycles - - Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Resources Bell Curve podcast http://bit.ly/3HVuKi1 LVMH story https://www.ft.com/content/c79eccfc-fca1-11e9-a354-36acbbb0d9b6 - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

3 Feb 202342min

Trading Crypto Inflection Points | Hal Press

Trading Crypto Inflection Points | Hal Press

In this episode of Empire, Hal Press joins Mike and Jason to discuss his investment thesis. It's no secret that Hal is an ETH super bull, and this episode makes it clear why. He explains ETH's unfair advantage, how L2s will serve as free marketing for Ethereum, the liquidity staking derivative trade, the mechanics behind token rallies, token value accrual and the deflationary outlook! Get ready, this is one of my favorite podcasts yet. - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:54) What Caused This Rally? (10:46) The ETH:BTC Ratio (13:14) How Shanghai Will Affect ETH Sell Pressure (18:32) The LSD Trade (20:30) Blockworks Research Ad (30:30) The Real Yield Thesis (32:36) Has ETH Won? (44:28) Aptos’ Rally & Learnings (54:40) The L2 Landscape (59:10) Where Will Value Accrue? (1:07:36) Bullish on dYdX (1:10:34) Macro and Deflation - - Follow Hal: https://twitter.com/NorthRockLP Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Mike: https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Resources North Rock Digital https://northrockdigital.com/ - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

30 Jan 20231h 23min

Bear Market: Stage 3 is upon us | Roundup

Bear Market: Stage 3 is upon us | Roundup

In today’s episode of Empire, we discuss how we've just entered the third phase of the bear market. A phase marked by apathy. We explore what this means for builders, investors and the industry. If you're still here (in crypto), you don't want to miss this. We then cover why Aptos' price is pumping, Circles CCTP news, the controversial Doodles announcement and more! - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (04:27) Permissionless Speakers (05:30) Phase 3 of the Bear Market (37:00) Regulatory Clarity (41:09) Why is Aptos Ripping? (49:06) Circle’s CCTP (55:29) Doodles 2 Launching on Flow (57:50) Kevin Rose $2M+ NFT “Hack” - - Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Resources Electric Capital 2022 Developer Report https://www.developerreport.com/developer-report Revoke.Cash https://revoke.cash/ - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

27 Jan 20231h 5min

How EigenLayer Unlocks Infrastructure Innovation | Sreeram Kannan, Calvin Liu

How EigenLayer Unlocks Infrastructure Innovation | Sreeram Kannan, Calvin Liu

In this episode of Empire, Sreeram Kannan and Calvin Liu explain how EigenLayer creates a market for decentralized trust to enable permissionless infrastructure innovation. We explore EigenLayer's core use cases, slashing mechanics, economic incentives, re-staking risks and more. EigenLayer might be the most underrated project in Ethereum right now. Tune in to find out why! - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:08) EigenLayer 101 (18:04) Liquid vs Native Staking (24:24) Why Calvin Joined EigenLayer (28:51) Core Use Cases (49:50) Improper Slashing Risk (1:00:00) EigenLayer’s Flywheel and Business Model (1:05:45) Systemic Risks: Overleveraging Staked ETH - - Follow Sreeram:https://twitter.com/sreeramkannan Follow Calvin: https://twitter.com/cjliu49 Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Resources EigenLayer https://www.eigenlayer.com/ EigenLayer's Twitter https://twitter.com/eigenlayer - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

23 Jan 20231h 23min

The Wallet Wars: Rise of the SuperApp | Qiao Wang

The Wallet Wars: Rise of the SuperApp | Qiao Wang

In this episode of Empire, Qiao explains the upcoming Wallet Wars. Wallets are the decentralized access point for crypto, and the battle for distribution is about to get wild. Listen in to learn about the SuperApp Thesis, account abstraction, the battle for attention, wallet value capture and more! - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:50) The Fat Wallet Thesis (04:11) How Wallets Have Evolved (09:06) Wallet Wars, Rise of the SuperApp (24:35) Account Abstraction (27:28) Why Geography Matters (29:16) Wallet Value Capture (41:03) Blue Ocean Opportunities & Centralized Credentials (51:02) Crypto Alfalpha - - Follow Qiao: https://twitter.com/QwQiao Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Resources Alliance DAO https://alliance.xyz/ Good Game podcast (Qiao's podcast) https://goodgamepod.xyz/ - - More related content by Blockworks: What Are Seed Phrases and Are They Needed? The New Debate https://blockworks.co/news/what-are-seed-phrases - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

20 Jan 20231h 5min

How Avalanche Will Outscale L2s | Emin Gün Sirer, John Wu

How Avalanche Will Outscale L2s | Emin Gün Sirer, John Wu

In this episode of Empire, Emin Gün Sirer and John Wu explain why Avalanche is the most scalable, decentralized L1. We start with why developers choose Avalanche, then quickly transition into the L2 debate. Emin explains why Subnets are superior and how the L2 vision and L2 reality are miles apart. We also talk about Avalanche's consensus engine, business development, the multichain future and more! - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:01) Avalanche’s Core Thesis (04:17) Why Build on Avalanche? (14:19) The Problem with L2s (19:08) Avalanche's Tradeoffs (23:41) The Consensus Engine (30:00) Learnings From Other Networks (33:29) Solana vs Avalanche (40:59) Avalanche’s Security Guarantees (45:00) Business Development Strategy (55:09) Warp: Communication Between Subnets (1:00:01) On-Chain Governance (1:01:41) Avalanche’s Community (1:08:29) A Multichain Future? - - Follow Emin: https://twitter.com/el33th4xor Follow John: https://twitter.com/John1wu Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Resources Avalanche https://www.avax.network/ Ava Labs https://www.avalabs.org/ - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

16 Jan 20231h 15min

Is Lido's Monopoly a Threat to Ethereum? | Roundup

Is Lido's Monopoly a Threat to Ethereum? | Roundup

In today’s episode of Empire, we discuss the upcoming Shanghai upgrade and Lido's liquid staking monopoly. What will happen to stake rates once withdrawals are enabled? Will LSD providers steal market share from Lido? We also discuss Genesis' terrible GBTC trade, why we're feeling optimistic, FTX recovering $5B, Japan's most popular blockchain and how people still underestimate the power of BD in crypto (e.g. the Avalanche AWS partnership)! - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:21) Crypto Conferences & the January Effect (09:30) Genesis’ Terrible Risk/Reward Trade (20:08) FTX Finds $5B of Assets (24:38) SBF’s Substack Post (28:56) Why We're Still Feeling Optimistic (37:21) How the Shanghai Upgrade will Impact ETH staking rates (44:16) When to Sell (a Crypto Funds Perspective) (48:16) Has Lido Won the LSD Battle? (52:53) Avalanche Partners With AWS (1:01:07) Japan’s Most Popular Blockchain (1:03:39) Coinbase and Blockchain.com Layoffs (1:05:00) On-Chain US Treasuries (Ondo Finance) (1:07:25) Book Recommendations - - Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Resources Thinking in Probabilities (Byron newsletter) https://blockworks.co/newsletter/issue/30211866 SBF's Substack https://sambf.substack.com/ Ryan Watkins tweet https://twitter.com/RyanWatkins_/status/1612872737134870528 Astar https://astar.network/starmap/ - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

13 Jan 20231h 13min

10 Investment Themes from Brevan Howard | Colleen Sullivan, Peter Johnson

10 Investment Themes from Brevan Howard | Colleen Sullivan, Peter Johnson

In this episode of Empire, Colleen Sullivan and Peter Johnson join us to discuss their predictions for 2023. We cover the future of NFTs, gaming, trading infrastructure, stablecoins, regulation, AppChains and more! This episode is packed with insights from two top VCs in crypto - you won't want to miss it. - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:04) Why Choose Optimism (04:22) Stablecoin Volumes Will Surpass Visa Volumes (11:59) Brands, NFTs and Polygon's Lead (25:31) Gaming Studios Will Integrate NFTs (29:48) The Financialization of NFTs (38:08) Gaming Interoperability (42:42) The Unbundling of NFT Marketplaces (49:38) Changes to Market Trading Infrastructure (51:35) DeFi Regulation, Macro and Bitcoin’s Narrative (1:10:42) The Separation of Brokerage, Custody and Settlement (1:14:40) 2023’s Prevailing Narrative (1:19:17) The AppChain Thesis & IRL Yields in Crypto (1:22:47) Steady Adoption & Strong Beliefs - - Follow Colleen: https://twitter.com/colleenklein Follow Peter: https://twitter.com/TheChicagoVC Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Resources What to Expect for NFTs and Digital Goods in 2023 https://blockworks.co/news/digital-goods-nfts-2023 What to Expect From Web3 Gaming in 2023 https://blockworks.co/news/web3-gaming-2023 What to Expect for Ethereum and Blockchain Infrastructure in 2023 https://blockworks.co/news/ethereum-blockchain-infrastructure-2023 Tokengated Commerce https://www.notboring.co/p/tokengated-commerce Financial Times (Alan Howard) https://www.ft.com/content/e89061dd-634e-4024-b74a-5a102d4eb552 - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

9 Jan 20231h 37min

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