ROUNDTABLE: The REV Debate - Real Metric or Fake News? Jon, Bread, & Andy8052
Bankless21 Mai 2025

ROUNDTABLE: The REV Debate - Real Metric or Fake News? Jon, Bread, & Andy8052

In this episode of the Bankless Podcast, hosts discuss Real Economic Value (REV). Triggered by Jon's exploration of how ETH and SOL prices correlate with REV, the team delves into REV's role as a value capture metric and demand signal for blockchain networks. We evaluate the implications for network valuations, debate the sustainability of relying on REV, and analyze competitive dynamics between Ethereum and Solana. The conversation concludes with musings on crypto investment risks and the evolving identity of digital currencies in relation to app utility. Jon Charbonneau: https://x.com/jon_charb Bread: https://x.com/0xBreadguy Andy8052: https://x.com/andy8052 —- 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 🌐SELF | PROVE YOUR SELF https://bankless.cc/Self 🟠HEMI | BTC & ETH, ONE NETWORK https://bankless.cc/hemi --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 REV https://x.com/jon_charb/status/1923739890115543264 https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1924835154700234866 17:56 Stablecoins vs Native Currencies 28:38 Tribalism https://x.com/post_polar_/status/1924458711940055246 https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1924202146117153172 39:30 The Trenches https://dune.com/beincrypto/solana-launchpads 49:14 Pump . Fun --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

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