The Fathom Podcast24 Jun 2024

14: Toby Greene: ‘None of the options are good, but if you don’t want Hamas or endless Israeli occupation, you need something else’:

Fathom speaks to Toby Greene about two articles co-authored with Professor Jonathan Rynhold and dealing with the political future of a post-Hamas Gaza: ‘Beyond Humanitarian Aid: A Plan for Gazan Civilians Is a Strategic Necessity for Israel’ and ‘URGENT: An Israeli Strategy for a Post-Hamas Gaza’. Despite Prime Minister Netanyahu’s repeated denial that Israel will support the involvement of the Palestinian Authority (PA), Greene says that ‘if you don’t want continued Hamas rule and permanent Israeli occupation you have to work with what tools are available (which is a potentially reformed PA).’ Greene advocates the kind of technocratic approach once seen under former Prime Minister Fayyad, saying ‘a key component of getting from where we are now to Palestinian statehood is credible bottom up state-building institutions albeit within a credible diplomatic path that can work in concert with it.’ Toby is a Visiting Fellow in the Middle East Centre at the London School of Economics and a Lecturer in the Department for Political Studies at Bar Ilan University. He is the author of Blair, Labour & Palestine: Conflicting Views on Middle East Peace After 9/11. He is also a former deputy editor of Fathom.

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Matti Friedman on his book 'Out of the Sky' and Gazology

In front of a live audience in Tel Aviv, Fathom Editor Calev Ben-Dor talks to Matti Friedman about his new book, Out of the Sky. They discuss Hannah Senesh and the other parachutists who returned to N...

28 Jul 57min

38: Howard Jacobson on literature, antiSemitism and anti-Zionism

Howard Jacobson is a British Jewish novelist and journalist who has written more than twenty books, including seventeen novels, and won the Booker Prize for fiction. This interview focuses on three of...

6 Jul 1h 12min

37: Elliot Abrams on Epic Fury / Rising Lion against Iran

In early June 2026, Fathom editors Calev Ben-Dor and Andrew Apostolou spoke to Elliot Abrams. Abrams is Senior Fellow for Middle Eastern Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, and has previously...

7 Jun 32min

36: Hanin Ghaddar on Israel, Lebanon and Hezbollah

On April 23 2026, Fathom editors spoke to Lebanon expert Hanin Ghaddar, the Friedman Senior Fellow at the Washington Institute. As Israeli and Lebanese Ambassadors renewed talks under the auspices of ...

27 Apr 28min

35: Merav Roth on grief and trauma in Israel

In late March, Fathom spoke to Merav Roth (née Lapid) about her work treating trauma in Israel. She discusses the different circles of grief and reflects on her work with survivors from October 7 and ...

14 Apr 49min

35: Merav Roth discusses grief in Israel

14 Apr 49min

34: Alireza Nader - The Uprising in Iran

With thousands reportedly killed by the regime, Fathom spoke to Iran expert Alireza Nader about the uprising in the country. He discussed what he terms the revolutionary movement in Iran, opposition p...

20 Jan 36min