#109 Why Isn't She Healing Yet: 3 Myths Men Need to Unlearn with Luke Gordon

#109 Why Isn't She Healing Yet: 3 Myths Men Need to Unlearn with Luke Gordon


In this powerful episode, Hali Roderick and Luke Gordon unpack three of the most common myths that keep men stuck and prevent relationships from truly healing after betrayal. Whether you're early in your recovery journey or have been doing the work for a while, these insights will help you shift from unintentional harm to intentional healing.

We also introduce the Help Her Heal Intensive for men, happening this July in Spanish Fork, Utah. Check the link for an exciting new optional Add-On for couples, where wives can join for a guided, therapist-led day of healing, empathy practice, and emotional integration.

  • MYTH 1: “Talking About It Just Makes Things Worse” Why silence reinforces trauma—and how showing up with presence (not perfection) creates safety.

  • MYTH 2: “If I Show Emotion, I’ll Make It About Me” The difference between emotional ownership and emotional dumping—and how authentic expression builds trust.

  • MYTH 3: “I Just Want Her to See How I’m Doing Good” Why seeking validation in moments of her pain creates disconnection—and what to focus on instead.

📣 Learn More & Take the Next Step:

🎯 Help Her Heal Intensive – July 8–11 | Spanish Fork, Utah An immersive 4-day experience for men ready to rebuild trust and emotional safety after betrayal.

💞 Optional Add-On: Couples Integration Experience Wives are invited to join for a guided, therapist-led day of connection, empathy, and healing.

👉 Learn more and reserve your spot by calling Choose Recovery Services at (702)277-9145 or email: chooserecoveryservices@gmail.com.

Learn more about Luke Gordon HERE and check out his Beyond the Facade Podcast!

Thank you for tuning in!

We’re here to support couples healing from infidelity and betrayal, offering encouragement, practical skills, and expertise each week. As certified relational recovery coaches, we are passionate about guiding you toward hope, empathy, and lasting healing.

Stay connected with us and access all the resources we offer—coaching sessions, groups, and more—by visiting this link.

Your Hosts:

Hali RoderickCertified Relational Recovery CoachTICC, ACC, APSATS CPC, ERCEM-C, Brainspotting Practitioner

Read Hali’s Bio

Stephanie HambyCertified Relational Recovery CoachMCLC, ACC, APSATS CPC, ERCEM-CRead Stephanie’s Bio

We look forward to journeying with you!

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