
Rick Wilson & James Kimmel
The Lincoln Project’s Rick Wilson examines the No King Protest, Trump’s sad birthday fascist display, and the rise of political violence. James Kimmel details his new book The Science of Revenge: Understanding the World's Deadliest Addiction—and How to Overcome It.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
16 Jun 45min

Charlie Sykes & Ed Luce
To The Contrary newsletter author Charlie Sykes examines the escalation of Trump’s actions since his first administration. Ed Luce details his new book Zbig: The Life of Zbigniew Brzezinski, America's Great Power Prophet.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
14 Jun 47min

Andy Levy & Brian Merchant
As The World Churns’ Andy Levy examines the fallout from the Trump and Musk feud.Blood in the Machine author Brian Merchant details how AI is already quietly killing job prospects in America.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12 Jun 50min

Rick Wilson & David A. Graham
The Lincoln Project’s Rick Wilson skewers Trump weaponizing the National Guard against protesters.David A. Graham details his new book The Project: How Project 2025 Is Reshaping America.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9 Jun 48min

Stuart Stevens & John Cassidy
The Lincoln Project’s Stuart Stevens parses Elon and Trump’s breakup and the case for nationalizing SpaceX and Starlink. The New Yorker’s John Cassidy details his book Capitalism and Its Critics: A History — From the Industrial Revolution to AI.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
7 Jun 47min

Dan Nathan & Alan Elrod
Risk Reversal’s Dan Nathan details the business world's reaction to Trump’s insane tariffs. Alan Elrod examines their brilliant new article You’re Not Crazy. America Has Gone Mad.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5 Jun 46min

Dana Milbank & Marc Dunkelman
The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank examines the turning of the tide against Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill. Marc Dunkelman details his new book Why Nothing Works: Who Killed Progress―and How to Bring It Back.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4 Jun 42min