Could Delay Calling Cops Plus Coroner Comments Create Reasonable Doubt For Kohberger?

Could Delay Calling Cops Plus Coroner Comments Create Reasonable Doubt For Kohberger?

A lot of information has come out about the victims in Moscow, Idaho, and the condition of their bodies as well as location and injuries. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabutt made many public comments in the first days of the investigation that in retrospect might have been misguided, at best. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case, the evidence, and what was stated as fact early in the investigation that doesn't match up with current facts. Joe Scott Morgan explains the forensics of death, Livor Mortis, Rigor Mortis, as well as PMI, Post Mortem Interval, and how the delay in reporting the bodies could be problematic for the prosecution in the upcoming trial of Brian Kohberger.

Transcribe Highlights
00:00.19 Introduction

01:48.68 Decomposition - PMI

03:32.16 Elderly people are cold when it is hot

07:00.30 Rigor Mortis, Livor Mortis

11:48.60 Environmentally dependent

15:33.11 Stiffening of jaw

19:56.67 Latah County Coroner said Idaho students killed in their sleep

23:19.82 Strength of Rigor Mortis

28:22.59 Using digital turkey thermometer to get body temp from liver

32:54.33 Assuming room temperature

38:11.60 Latah County Coroner told family member about injuries

43:00.35 Removing stomach and collecting contents

49:49.70 Gastric content

53:08.10 Post Mortem lividity

58:25.86 Conclusion

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Sins of the Father: The Death of Dylan Redwine "The Best of Body Bags"

Sins of the Father: The Death of Dylan Redwine "The Best of Body Bags"

Dylan Redwine is forced to spend Thanksgiving with his father in Colorado. He doesn't want to be there because he knows some things about his father, secret, disgusting things, and he just doesn't want to be around him. But due to his parent divorce he has to go. Dylan Redwine goes missing, his dad suggests a bear might have got him. It takes time, but in the end, Forensics will tell the entire story of what happened to Dylan Redwine.Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down a story that took years to finish and includes blood, sex, knives, and bones. Time Code Highlights. 00:01:40 Redwine Murder was one of the first Joseph Scott Morgan covered in media 00:04:00 Dylan must go to his father’s house in Colorado for Thanksgiving 00:05:08 Mark Redwine house burned down previously 00:07:03 Discussion of children of divorce, Dylan did not want to be with his father 00:08:20 Talk about pictures Dylan and his brother saw on their dad’s computer 00:09:30 Joe talks the information he was given to cover story on network show 00:11:03 Pictures of Mark Redwine in lingerie, makeup, eating out of diaper 00:13:09 Joe tells story of being embarrassed comparing it to how Mark Redwine was embarrassed his children found out about secret pictures 00:15:00 Discussion about the boys confronting their father over his pictures 00:16:50 Talk about Mark Redwine responding to Corey about the pictures 00:19:25 Joe talks about Mark Redwine being humiliated and angry 00:20:45 Redwine claims he went to store, Dylan was gone when he got back 00:21:35 Discussion about Corey Redwine being several years older than Dylan 00:22:45 Talk about forensics and how nothing is ever hidden 00:24:04 Joe talks about a dog finding blood in the home 00:26:05 Blood from Dylan would have to have been from recent visit 00:30:04 Joe talks about a murder case without a body 00:31:00 Both femurs of Dylan Redwine found 8 miles from Mark Redwine home 00:32:43 Bones found on a road could have been drug by an animal 00:34:14 Determining whether the bones were separated by human using tools 00:36:05 Talk about Mark Redwine mentioning something to a friend about blunt force trauma and they would need to find his head 00:37:45 Dylan Redwine skull found 00:39:00 No animals in the area that would drag remains up the mountain 00:40:10 Talk about surface deposition 00:41:05 Mark Redwine said Dylan may have been attacked by a bear. 00:43:50 What the skull tells investigators. Took several months to identify 00:45:12 Joe explains using sinus for identification 00:46:45 Skull fractures show blunt force trauma. Two linear marks consistent with a knife blade found on skull. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

21 Jan 46min

Teen Missing Two Months, Found Naked, Shot in Back of Head "Best of Body Bags"

Teen Missing Two Months, Found Naked, Shot in Back of Head "Best of Body Bags"

Recorded LIVE at CrimeCon Nashville, 2024:In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan explains how he challenges his class at Jacksonville State University to try and solve a cold case. Two years in a row, two different classes and students chose the unsolved murder of Blake Chappell. Blake Chappell tells his mother he is having the best night of his life with his girlfriend at the East Coweta High School Homecoming Dance.Within a matter of hours, Blake will find himself chased out of his girlfriend’s house in the middle of the night, walking down the road at 5 a.m. texting his girlfriend, and telling her police just stopped and talked to him. One last text to his girlfriend that he is getting cold, and his phone goes quiet.Blake Chappell is 17 and he never makes it back to his friend’s house. He just vanishes into thin air. It is October 16, 2011. Two months later on December 17, 2011, his nearly naked body is found floating in a creek, he has been shot in the back of the head.The case is still unsolved. But new search warrants were served in March 2024, will there be justice for Blake Chappell? Transcript Highlights 00:00:13 Introduction Blake Chappel Case 00:04:40 Discuss of family financial issues 00:08:28 Blake finds ex-girlfriend who ran away 00:10:32 Blake beaten up by ex’s stepfather 00:12:26 Blake put in jail for finding his ex 00:17:35 Mother takes Blake and date to homecoming dance 00:20:48 Discussion of Blake activities walking in the night 00:24:24 Talk about Blake walking miles to see girlfriend 00:28:08 Talk about Blake texting girlfriend 00:31:49 Talk about Blake doesn’t make it back to Austin’s house 00:37:36 Discussion Blake shot in back of head 00:43:22 Discussion rumors about Blake’s death 00:48:12 Discussion Blake found wearing underwear, no shoes 00:52:34 Conclusion Joseph Scott Morgan lets his JSU class pick unsolved crime to solve Two years in a row the case of Blake Chappel is chosen for the project See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

16 Jan 53min

Dismemberment and the Desecration of the Dead Body Bags Live at CrimeCon 2023 "The Best of Body Bags"

Dismemberment and the Desecration of the Dead Body Bags Live at CrimeCon 2023 "The Best of Body Bags"

Over the last few years, more and more death scenes involve dismemberment.An "obsessed" true crime fan in South Korea thinks she can pull off the perfect murder, so how did Jung Yoo-Jung get caught? Taylor Schabusiness tells police she doesn't remember strangling her boyfriend, but it felt good. She leaves his severed head in a bucket for his mother to find.And in Tennessee, prosecutors say Joel Guy Jr created a "diabolical stew of human remains" with his mother's head when he finds out his parents are cutting him off.Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the forensics and Dave Mack keeps the stories moving in this fast-paced edition of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan in front of a live audience at CrimeCon 2023 in Orlando, Florida Time Code Highlights. 00:02:50 South Korean Woman Jung Yoo-Jung is said to be an obsessed crime fan 00:03:17 Discussion of how 23-year-old woman pretends to be a 14-year-old school girl 00:04:19 Jung Yoo-jung wants to commit a homicide and dismember the victim to try and get away with murder.. 00:05:33 Her plan is to kill, dismember, and dispose of the victim. 00:06:27 Talks about the tools needed to do the job she wants to do 00:10:19 What would she used to clean up the area? 00:12:00 Talk about Gilgo and Rex Heuermann 00:12:44 Talking about the getaway and getting rid of the remains 00:12:57 To commit the perfect crime she uses a cab as a getaway car, leads to her capture 00:14:39 Joseph Scott Morgan tells story of transporting a head as a young man working in New Orleans with the coroner. 00:15:52 Under no circumstances are you to allow this bot this head out of your sight. 00:16:23 Had to use a cooler with ice to transport the head 00:18:40 Discussion about Taylor Schabusiness case. 00:19:14 The mother of the victim finds his head in bucket 00:20:20 Discussion of the relationship between suspect and victim 00:21:56 Schabusiness told police she didn't remember strangling him, but she remembered liking it. 00:23:16 She told police, you found this part of him, good luck finding the rest 00:25:48 Discussion about the types of knives needed to do what was done to the victim 00:27:46 Talk about the forensics of different types of blades 00:30:47 Joe Scott Morgan talks about the time it takes to dismember a body 00:32:09 Joel Guy Jr, created a game plan for what he was going to do to his parents 00:32:23 Discussion about Joel Guy Jr and why he killed his parents 00:34:18 Joel Guy Jr stabbed his parents to death, then cut them up. 00:35:04 Talk about police interrupted Joel Guy Jr and found his "list" of things to do 00:39:42 Discussion of the medical examiner at the trial 00:40:09 Talk about anti-mortem and post-mortem 00:43:11 Joseph Scott Morgan explains the way a body can be disarticulatedSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

15 Jan 43min

Live From CrimeCon Las Vegas The Death of Ellen Greenberg "The Best of Body Bags "

Live From CrimeCon Las Vegas The Death of Ellen Greenberg "The Best of Body Bags "

Recorded live in front of a studio audience at CrimeCon in Las Vegas, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan re-examines the injuries to Ellen Greenberg. The teacher and soon-to-be-bride, is found death in her apartment with more than 20 stab wounds, and her death is ruled a suicide. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

14 Jan 39min

The Ransom Note and Non-Kidnapping Murder of JonBenet Ramsey

The Ransom Note and Non-Kidnapping Murder of JonBenet Ramsey

A final look at items brought up in the recent Netflix documentary about JonBenet Ramsey and her death. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the crime scene with Joe breaking down the mistakes that were made and how they have nothing to do with technology. Also, a question that has never been answered regarding the "ransom" note. What type of "kidnapper" kills the person and leaves a "ransom" note? Who would pay a "ransom" for the "safe return" of a loved one when the "loved one" is already dead and in the house? Transcribe Highlights00:00.41 Introduction 02:00.28 No excuses for evidence mistakes 04:54.75 Never Ask Father of missing 6-year-old search the house 10:06.27 The physical things seen in strangling 14:34.80 Why leave the body AND ransom note 19:53.52 Why ask for $118,000? 24:28.50 The reason for the ransom note is dead 29:07.64 JonBenet was beaten, skull was fractured 32:10.35 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

9 Jan 33min

Burned To Death After 10 Hours Locked In Storage Unit: The Death of Corrine Abosamra

Burned To Death After 10 Hours Locked In Storage Unit: The Death of Corrine Abosamra

A fire was reported November 7th, 2024, at Broadmoor Self-Storage in Kentwood, Michigan. Firefighters cut the lock off unit 454, and discovered the body of Corinne Abosamra. Morgan Wingeier rented a storage unit at Broadmoor Self-Storage and allowed Corinne Abosamra to live in the unit. On the day of the fire, Wingeier left Abosamra in the unit and locked it with a pad lock on the outside. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss what is known so far about the death of Abosamra and look closely at the evidence to see if it leads to accident or murder. Transcribe Highlights 00:00.41 Introduction 02:00.28 Renting a Storage Unit 04:54.75 At a fire scene, everything looks the same 09:06.27 Would someone rent a storage unit to render down a body 14:34.80 Finding charred remains in the storage unit 19:53.52 Did Morgan Wingeier forget she locked Abosamra in storage unit 24:28.50 Victim was in the unit for 10 hours before fire was seen 29:07.64 Wingeier didn't return to the storage unit 34:10.35 Heat coming off a fire, no escape 39:47.36 Conclusion See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

8 Jan 40min

SHOCKING SENTENCE: Possible Parole for Architect of Piketon Massacre 

SHOCKING SENTENCE: Possible Parole for Architect of Piketon Massacre 

This is a story of the Wagner family and the Rhoden family. Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden began dating when Hanna was 13 and Jake was 18. Hanna became pregnant with Jake's baby when she was 15. Those who knew Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden said that Jake Wagner was very controlling and had been verbally and physically abusive to Hanna. Hanna Rhoden broke up with Jake Wagner and they both dated other people. Hanna had a child with another man and Jake Wagner married another woman, briefly. The Wagner family wanted custody of Sophia and accused Hanna Rhoden of dating men that might sexually assault Sophia. There was no proof this was the case, but it fueled the rage in the Wagner family toward Hanna Rhoden. When the Wagner's tried to force Hanna Rhoden to sign papers to turn custody of Sophia over to Jake Wagner, she refused and posted a message on Facebook that she would “never sign papers ever. They will have to kill me first.” That is when the Wagner family decided to kill Hanna Rhoden, as well as her relatives so that custody would fall to them. Jake Wagner allegedly began a relationship with Hanna Rhoden when she was 13, impregnating her when she was 15 and he was 20. In addition to homicide, he has been charged with unlawful sexual conduct with a minor. After she ended the relationship, prosecutors say, he began threatening her.The bodies of the Rhoden family members were first discovered on the morning of April 22, 2016 by Bobby Jo Manley, the ex-sister of Chris Rhoden Sr.There were four locations and eight victims, all killed in one night. The victims were: Hannah Hazel Gilley, 20, Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden, 20, Hanna May Rhoden, 19, Dana Lynn Manley Rhoden, 37, Christopher Don Rhoden Jr., 16, Christopher Don Rhoden Sr., 40, Gary Dwayne Rhoden, 38, and Kenneth Wayne Rhoden, 44. Pike County Massacre - sentencing Confessed killer gets life in prison with chance for parole Angela Wagner - 30 years with possibility of parole (credited with six years and six weeks served) Jake Wagner sentenced to Life with Possibility of Parole after 32 years Rita Newcomb sentenced to 5 years of probation and $750 fine Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about some of the decisions that have been made in the case of the Piketon Massacre. Breaking down the crimes of the night, four locations in one night, wiping out generations of one family, moving an infant child next to the bosom of his dead mother so the baby can suckle if he gets hungry. Joe explains each crime scene to help explain what type of planning was required. Piketon MassacreTranscript Highlights 00:00.01 Introduction 02:55.22 Sentencing at Piketon 06:05.91 Mother was the Puppetmaster 10:12.49 Not a death penalty case 15:21.13 Hannah was 13 when she began dating Jake 20:01.28 Hannah says "I'm never signing any papers 25:29.20 Mother bought new shoes at Walmart 30:29.13 Angela Wagner hung baskets in kitchen 34:57.12 Piketon Massacre sentencing 40:35.65 Is this really the best outcome 46:06.07 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

7 Jan 46min

Top Three Most Downloaded Episodes of "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan" Part Three

Top Three Most Downloaded Episodes of "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan" Part Three

The top 3 most downloaded episodes of "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan" over the last year:# 3 SHOCKING Crime Scene Photos Tell New Story About Gypsy Rose# 2 Missing Mom Murder Trial: Blood Evidence Could Prove She's Not Missing# 1 Evil Has a Tattoo Face: The Death of Two Women Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the most downloaded episodes of Body Bags and add some new information and theories to some of the most downloaded episodes of the last year. Transcribe Highlights 00:00.13 Introduction 00:37.20 Top Three Most Downloaded, #3 Gypsy Rose Blanchard 06:01.07 Dee Dee Blanchard, hoarder, claims she and Gypsy Rose are refugees from Katrina 11:14.91 Dee Dee Blanchard was a big woman 13:21.58 Number Two most downloaded show 18:51.02 Early on Jennifer Dulos reported missing 23:20.33 Body of Jennifer Dulos has not been found 28:15.87 Wade Wilson - Tattoo Face 33:40.07 Not Deadpool- Wilson charged with two murders 38:33.79 Wilson Case gets attention because of tattoos 40:38.31 Wilson Dad believed he would kill again See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

3 Jan 41min

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