Parenting Out Loud: The Ms Rachel Controversy & The Great Kids Vs Friendships Debate
Mamamia Out Loud27 Jun 2025

Parenting Out Loud: The Ms Rachel Controversy & The Great Kids Vs Friendships Debate

What better way to start the weekend than with this episode of Parenting Out Loud? Because if parents are thinking about it, we're talking about it.

On the show today, Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester are joined by friend of the pod, and Mamamia's Deputy Editor, Stacey Hicks, to chat all things:

👩🏻 Ms Rachel: to what extent can we expect children's entertainers to be apolitical? The controversy about the beloved YouTube star continues.
☎️ The dumb phone: why families are reintroducing landlines and 'bricks' in pursuit of simpler technology.
💬 And, can having kids wreck adult friendships?

Plus, in this week’s reccos:
📝 Amelia wants you to try a special storytelling collection.
🧸 Jessie recommends daycare with a twist.
📚 Stacey is all about Dolly Parton's Imagination Library.

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