Historical Homos12 Jun 2025

Toxic Boyfriends of Greek Mythology: Part II (feat. Liv Albert)

Why do bottoms always die in Greek mythology?

If you're a fan of Greek myth, you know the gods love to act like humans: they love, they fuck, they fight...they throw dinner parties.

But they also love to kill us. When gods show up on Earth, it typically means someone's about to get pregnant or dead, real quick. (Or both.)

And the pattern holds for the gay Greek myths. (With admittedly fewer pregnancies carried to term.)

Zeus and Apollo never seem able to keep their mortal boyfriends alive, while demigods like Herakles and Achilles also find it tricky to maintain their lovers' pulses.

Why is this? What's going on psychologically, historically, narratively, and yes, erotically, when the ancients were sang of so much LITERAL twink death in their myths?

Join Bash and Liv Albert, renowned Greek myth expert and host of the Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! podcast this week as they discuss:

Herakles and Hylas being afraid of women (and the bottomless depths of ancient Greek misogyny)
Apollo, the god of being a total DICK all the time, and Hyacinth, a beautiful youth slain in a totally avoidable "frisbee tragedy"
Achilles and Patroclus, the famed comrades-at-arms, who die for one another in most toxic fashion

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Written and hosted by Bash. Guest host: Liv Albert. Edited by Alex Toskas. Produced by Dani Henion.

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